Aziz Ansari Is Guilty. Of Not Being a Mind Reader - NYT

[DonFerrari]

VGPolyglot said:

DonFerrari said:

Unless you are missing that from saying hello, inviting to dinner, approaching to kiss, going to the apartment, taking clothes out doesn't sign as continuous consent until the person say no then you are just crazy... Because your analogy of crossing someone in the street and punching him would go to crossing someone on the street and inserting the penis on that person, while the other situation would be two people in a box ring fighting without asking at every single punch if they can keep doing it but stopping when the other person forfeit.

Are you adhering to those people that think that if you kiss your wife while she is still sleeping it is rape because she didn't consent to be kissed at that moment?

I didn't say anything about it being someone crossing the street. There are different levels of comfortability, because someone is fine taking their clothes off and having oral sex doesn't mean that all of a sudden means that she wants her vagina penetrated and ejaculated in. I don't think that Aziz Ansari should be criminally responsible for what he did, but I think that he could have avoided this situation by just asking.

You compared what he did to just go and suddenly punch someone on the face as if they were the same, good to see you backtracked.

Sure there are different levels of comfort and just because you allowed to have one thing doesn't mean you allowed another. But we are talking about natural progression, you know each other, have dinner, go to place, kiss, get naked, do oral... next would go sex... you don't need to inform or ask before, it's smooth and natural, and sure if you don't want to cross that barrier you say no instead of waiting for the other to ask at every point if he can do it.

Cyran said:
If you go into a boxing ring with someone with gloves on (getting naked) then trade some body blows (oral sex) don't expect them to ask for verbal permission before they try to punch you in the face (sex). You really should let the person know the face off limit (sex).

Thanks for translating my analogy to someone that done the wrong analogy.

o_O.Q said:

Aeolus451 said:
I think he should sue her and the one who published the story for defamation. I'm sure he's blacklisted over this.

if the story is true, how can he sue her for defamation?

she went through the experience and obviously feels wronged, that's not a justification for him to sue her

If the story is true she was engaging in sexual activity with him, when she voiced she wanted to stop he stopped. But she is making the story in a way as he was practically raping her... if you don't see reason for a sue, sorry.