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Grampy said:

GTA IV was expected to be a major system seller but surprised everyone by selling very little hardware (unless we count the Wii which had a unexpected large bump).

MGS 4, on the other hand, seems to have sold hardware in excess of most opinion, Sony included. My question is, why did MGS prove to be a much better hardware seller than GTA?

a. Stronger franchise? no, MGS is not as strong as GTA

b. Platform exclusive? yes, this definetley helps alot, theres no division with MGS4 fans as to which version to get

c. Bundles? yes, the MGS4 has no doubt attracted PS2 owners to upgrade to PS3

d. 80GB SKU? a little, the bundle would probably sell on 40gb or 80gb

e. PS3 taking off? yes, PS3 has had a strong start to 2008 and is ahead of the 360 in weekly sales

f. Snake is a better salesman than Niko and his heavy accent? no, i doubt this had an effect

Is it some combination or something entirely different? its a combination of what ive mentioned IMO

I don’t have an answer because I am no expert of either game or platform. I’m just asking the question.