"Christianity, if false, is of no importance, and if true, of infinite importance. The only thing it cannot be is moderately important."

[Nem]

RolStoppable said:

Azuren said:

Here's the part where you shove your other foot in your mouth; I'm not religious. Not even slightly. But you know, keep making assumptions. Like the ones where you assume Atheism and Agnosticism are the same thing.

Atheism is the belief that no god exists.

There, I backed you up, buddy.

Well Rol... you are as wrong as you could ever be. I expected more from you.

But then again... who knows if you are ever serious.

Azuren said:

Nem said:

You really are boring. The definition of the word Atheism is the lack of belief in a god. It is everywhere and is the definition of the word officially recognised. Many people have linked it already on this thread. 

Don't like it? Want to make up your own definition based on the lies fed to you by your religious leaders? Go ahead. Not my problem. But it's total BS and only you and your religious buddies will eat it. Don't expect the rest of the world to. And after that you go and play the victims and want special treatment. Yes, i've seen this sad carrousel before.

Here's the part where you shove your other foot in your mouth; I'm not religious. Not even slightly. But you know, keep making assumptions. Like the ones where you assume Atheism and Agnosticism are the same thing.

You aren't you? What sort of reply is that? That is not even the point of the post. So, yeah... again your reply is devoid of any content.

I think i am done with you at this point. Btw wether you are religious or not, that does not change that what i said is correct.

Peh said:

Nem said:

I don't understand what can be missing. If we can't prove them to be real, they can't be proven to be real and therefore we can't assume they are. If we can't assume they are real, they are not real until proven otherwise. Theres no in-between state. 

Oh i did notice i was missing a "that" in the sentence.

"We can't assume that things we don't know are real, therefore we assume they aren't until we can prove they are."

Go me posting all this on the Wii U browser. xD

You made it unnecessary complicated for yourself, arf. Instead of using the term "rejected" you could go with lack of belief, arf.

You can't reject something you don't know or a concept you are not aware of, arf. But you can not believing in one, arf. Since not believing until being aware of something is the default position, arf.

 

Meaning, you never believed in the almighty God Neko until I told you of his existence, arf. From this moment on you  can  decide to start believing in it ( becoming an theist) or reject the concept of his existence ( stay an atheist), arf. I say "stay" because until then, you were without a God, thus by definition and the very meaning of the word is an atheist, arf. Atheos, where a = without, theos = God, arf.

It is a theoligical position, not a claim on the existence of God, arf.

You're right. They did get stuck on the word and not the definition and logic. But oh well... i'm not a teacher. Easing it in gently isn't what i excel at.

What i do know, is that it is completely logical and it's how we determine reality. They can't understand it but it is what it is. It's not up for debate cause theres no other logical way to do it.

Well... fingers crossed your more elegant post manages to reach them.

Last edited by Nem - on 14 January 2018