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VGPolyglot said:
o_O.Q said:

 

if as you said yourself your society has a government putting the rules in place... do you at least concede that it would be a two class society?

the class that puts the rules in place and enforces them and everyone else stuck at one level with "equal" status?

 

another thing is why are you so averse to hierarchies?

Well, hopefully everyone who is affected by the decisions would be part of the decision-making process if they desire, to eliminate the existence of the two classes. I am averse to hierarchies because people who have power tend to abuse their power one way or another.

"I am averse to hierarchies because people who have power tend to abuse their power one way or another."

there's truth to this, but that's a one-sided way of looking at it

people who work hard and move themselves up the different hierarchies do at times abuse the people below them in the hierarchy in terms of low pay in work environments, abuse, sexual abuse etc etc etc

but they also through their efforts advance civilisation forwards by innovating to develop new technology among other things

 

the first personal computers if i remember correctly were made by a guy in his garage who had the idea of making computers accessible for all and over time he worked at his idea and worked at it and he gave a great contribution to society... enriching his personal life obviously but also the lives of those around him and as a result conditions for everyone improved

he was able to achieve this because he had the freedom to step outside of the status quo and go about things differently and obviously a large incentive for people to take the risks required is that they'll be able to move up the hierarchy through their efforts in terms of their social status, finances etc etc etc

 

the problem with what you are proposing is that you take away the incentive of moving up the hierarchies of social status, finance etc so there's less of a reason to work hard and in such a system since things are more rigid people have less freedom to innovate and come up with new ways of doing things

 

there's loads of other problems with it but the stifling of innovation i think is a massive problem

 

there's also that people are so unbelievably diverse that you'd never be able to completely stamp out hierarchies... how do you address for example differences in intelligence? in attractiveness? in strength? in anxiety? and on and on and on its impossible since all of these qualities individually create their own hierarchy and they are interrelated in different ways

 

i think the proper path is to accept that inequality is an inherent aspect of being a person in society and the best society is one which gives everyone freedom to at least have a chance at advancing as far as they are capable, while accepting that things cannot be made perfect and some people will unfortunately have things harder than others