| Mr Puggsly said: Your responses can often make assumptions I wasn't making, or you just bring up something else that's irrelevant. Frankly, you do it so often I'm not sure why I didn't call out your straw man arguments before. And we continue to see it here... |
Yeah... Pot meet kettle. *Cough* GPU's *Cough*
| Mr Puggsly said: I mentioned GPU because that has a lot to do with your PC gaming options. Hence, being a PC gamers doesent mean you have a rig cabable of playing all Xbox content. People who want to play modern games but dont want to upgrade will often buy a console. Amazing you miss that point and I keep explaining it. |
Straw Man argument.
Obviously if you don't own an Xbox itself, you don't assume you will run all of the Xbox's content anyway.
| Mr Puggsly said: Straw man, I didnt argue MS didnt make mistakes during the 7th gen. Sony however made bigger ones that allowed Xbox to thrive. This is a fact. |
Not a Straw Man. I actually agreed with you to an extent.
Again, I posted the definition to what a Straw Man fallacy is prior in this thread, read it.
| Mr Puggsly said: I agree 360 had more true exclusives than X1. But 360 thrived primarily due to mistakes Sony made with PS3, not so much true exclusives. I mean the 360 couldnt have done as well as it did without Sony dropping the ball with PS3. Meanwhile, X1 hasnt declined from sharing games with PC, sales have been steady. The X1 had a bad launch, that hurt X1 more than sharing games with PC ever has. Hence, you neglect the major mistakes and just focus on PC getting Xbox games. |
The 360 also had the right game, the right franchise at the right time that helped bury the RROD fiasco.
Halo was on top of the entire gaming industry, Halo 3 pushed consoles, it was being talked about on Social media, on the news... In news papers. It was everywhere.
A single exclusive can make a stupidly massive difference.
| Mr Puggsly said: You miss the point again. You can find all the GTA titles because the successors didnt just make predecessors obsolete. FH2 is the same, its a unique product and not obsolete to FH3. Inferior maybe, but not obsolete. FH2 isn't just an update like Forza 7, there is original content in FH2 that makes it worth playing as well. |
That isn't what I am saying at all.
| Mr Puggsly said: You're blaming MCC for the part of the world you live. That's a personal problem. |
No.
| Mr Puggsly said: The ODST campaign came to MCC when much of the online problems were addressed. Adding Reach would have been nice, maybe it will happen eventually. Maybe! That would be a good way to reboot MCC. |
They did backwards compatibility with Reach, last time I tried it on the base Xbox One it was unplayable though due to extremely low framerates and horrendous frame pacing and input lag, probably been a ton of updates since then though, so I really should give it another spin.
I doubt Reach will come to the Master Chief Collection, having it at 60fps though would be amazing and worth another play through just for that though. Just don't see any new content being added to that game.
| Mr Puggsly said: Straw man, I said BC adds value to X1, which is fact. But you're arguing something else. |
I provided the definition of a straw man argument prior in this thread. Go read it.
And that isn't my argument at all. I agree that backwards compatibility is a great thing and I love the effort Microsoft has put into it.
But that doesn't mean that I cannot criticize a few aspects of it.
| Mr Puggsly said: They might have spent a billion on games since 2013. Think about EVERY release since then, games currently in development, games cancelled, marketing for those games, perhaps exclusive deals, etc. |
Well. They also potentially lost hundreds of millions from the cancellation of Fable and Scalebound.
But they did spend billions buying Mojang.
| Mr Puggsly said: Straw man, you said MS doesent invest as much into 1st party as Sony. I argued their output of games probably about the same. But now you're boasting about 3rd party exclusives which is primarily Japanese games. Those arent Sony's investments nor published by Sony, those primarily happen because Xbox isn't relevant in Japan and you'll see some of that Japanese support moving to Switch. |
I posted the definition of a "Straw Man" argument prior. Go read it.
Regardless, I think the game output speaks for itself if history and the short term outlook is anything to go by.
| Mr Puggsly said: You knew what X1 had coming and you knew you would play that content elsewhere. Thats why your X1X purchase makes no sense. Again, you actually argue your X1X purchase was dumb and we simply agree with you. |
Who gives a shit why I bought the console? Seriously?
It has absolutely nothing to do with this and doesn't remove the fact I am entitled to have an opinion and it doesn't change the fact I am allowed to openly criticize the Xbox.
So get over it.
| Mr Puggsly said: Go buy a 4K TV already. If you had the money for an X1 then I bet you can afford a 4K TV. I mean why settle with a blurry 1440p monitor? If you're stuck with 1080p because your monitor, too bad. That's your problem for having the wrong display and we dont care. |
1) I don't want a 4k TV.
2) I don't have a 4k TV.
3) I want the Xbox on my Monitor and not my TV.
4) TV's have inferior input lag.
5) My money. I'll buy what I want, when I want.
6) I am allowed to criticize the Xbox for lacking a certain feature that tons of gamers want, especially when Microsoft made the promise of 1440P support.
| Mr Puggsly said: I'm telling you MCC crashing will vary between pre and post patches. MCC went from disaster to staple thanks to patches. |
It still has issues. - Otherwise why would Microsoft/343 industries renew their commitment to fixing the game?
It has less issues now, sure. It's not 100% perfect.
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