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Genos8 said:
Barkley said:

By a marginal degree. But let's say hypothetically the Switch didn't release, what would you have expected ps4 sales in 2017 to be?

20.2m is a massive increase on 2016, I have a hard time believing that in the absence of the Switch it would have been much higher. Thus my belief that the Switch's affect on PS4 sales is marginal, and vice-versa.

How many of those 13m Switch purchases would have been a PS4? I'd wager not many.

20.2 m isn't a massive increse over 2016. ps4 has kept yoy sales very close to each other.

I'd expect 1.5-2 million more for ps4. Observe 2018 and you will see it more clearly.

2016 they sold 17.6m, 2017 they sold 20.2m. Yes that's a big increase.

I expect 2018 to be slightly down anyway, but not because of the Switch.

But if switch didn't launch you're saying the PS4 would have gone like this?

2015: 17.5m
2016: 17.6m
2017: 21.7m - 22.2m 

That's a very big jump. If the reason for that massive increase is "lack of competition" without switch, well there wasn't much competition in 2015/2016 either.