| Nem said: Geez... here go the religion people trying to make up definitions that suit them. https://www.atheists.org/activism/resources/about-atheism/ If you don't like that definition and wish to make up your own about this thing called Agnosticism wich is the EXACT SAME POSITION AS ATHEISM (the lack of belief in a God), no one cares. Take ignorance where the sun don't shine. |
You guys can debate linguistics all you want, but it's clear everyone needs some Wittgenstein here.
Clearly you don't agree on the theoretical definition of agnosticism. Understandable since some religious and atheist people think it's a weak middle position. As Wittgenstein would put it: "If you want to know the meaning of a term, look at it's use".
Clearly, when people self define as agnostic, they clearly mean they're not atheist, nor beling to any particular religion. So an agnostic can be quasi religious or just fully unknowing (or, depending on his/her interpretation: open toeverything). Clearly, the way the word is used for people self-describing as agnostic makes it a term seperate fro; atheism, while and at the same time not defining agnostics as being necessarily religious.
Clearly, jelling at people for not agreeing with a definition you gave, which is clearly not beased on real-world usage, is disingenuous. You could say I'm being irrational, but then I'd have to remind you one of the great minds of our times, Bertrand Russel, zho gave many a critique on various topics considering religion and who was specialised in mathematics and logic, self-defined as agnostic.
Clearly, agnosticism and atheism are two not fully overlapping terms.
Last edited by WolfpackN64 - on 13 January 2018
