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Nem said:
o_O.Q said:

 

for one i didn't talk about a god... i didn't claim that i have one etc

i didn't imply that i have the basis that anything can be true

 

"we don't see proof that your god exists and therefore we don't believe in it"

this is agnosticism

 

and... it looks like you pretty much agreed with what i said here

"on the other hand there's really nothing to learn in atheism... its simply "there is no god" (even though there is no evidence of that) and "ha ha religious people are dumb" "

so why'd you take issue with my post anyway?

Well, we can agree that you got no proof for a God, that is true.

You just don't know your terms or were tought wrongly. "Agnostic" is not a noun, it's an adjective. You were tought wrongly by the people that wanted to invent a new meaning for the term and atheism so they could better attack it. The definition i gave you is Atheism. 

There is no belief that a God doesn't exist, as you'd like to believe. It's contradictory religious BS. If something doesn't exist, by default it's not believed. If you search the definition of Atheism you will find what it truly means. A poster above has already linked several of them.

 

Agnosticism is listed as: "a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God.", wich is no different a position than Atheism because they also don't believe god is real. It just adds tat it can never be known.

It's therefore NOT a different position as Atheism.

I guess it's also possible people came up with it, just to be able to step out without being shunned. The US seems to have things like that.

 

Your post was filled with fallicies trying to affect a member who has gone the extra mile to learn and discover the facts of reality. You can too if you ever bother to do so. 

"ou just don't know your terms or were tought wrongly. "Agnostic" is not a noun, it's an adjective. You were tought wrongly by the people that wanted to invent a new meaning for the term and atheism so they could better attack it"

there are plenty of resources that still have that definition(one of which i posted) and 10 years ago the vast majority of them did

 

"there is no belief that a God doesn't exist"

i'm sure that if i felt like it i could quote people saying this in this very thread... wtf man lol

 

"If something doesn't exist, by default it's not believed."

didn't you just say that the belief that god does not exist does not exist?

 

"It's therefore NOT a different position as Atheism."

lol ok, if you want to believe that atheism and agnosticism are the same you are free to do so