bdbdbd said:
Paperboy_J said:
A long time ago I'd say religion, but today, science.
I mean cigarettes, alcohol, drugs... People die from car accidents every single day.
The leading cause of death in the world is heart disease, and that comes from eating garbage food created by science.
And you don't even have a choice anymore. Pretty much all the food has been modified in some way, it's all poisonous. Even the fruits and vegetables get sprayed with pesticides and other chemicals before they're sold to us.
Even medicine can kill you if you don't take it right. Medicine we probably wouldn't even need if it weren't for the garbage we either ate or inhaled, created by science.
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Let me ask you, why do you eat that garbage? It's not like anyone forces you to eat it. I know science, so I know what to eat and what not to eat. You should find it out too.
What you complaint about is something that's been created to fill a need, and that need isn't yours.
Pemalite said:
If religion would teach morals then there wouldn't be no religious extremists.
Fact is, people don't learn morals from Religion... Otherwise Atheists would be pushing immoral values.
Rather... Morals are learned from life experience, it's called Empathy.
For example... I would hate to chop someones leg off with a chainsaw, because I would hate it done to myself.
There is "morality" in science (If you can call it that). It's called Pseudoscience. - It's how people use "science" to reinforce their belief the world is flat or other stances that better align to their religious doctrine.
Science doesn't give a shit about politics... It doesn't care about religion, It never cared for how a countries economy is run, it doesn't even care if you exist or not.
Science is about knowledge and the gathering of knowledge and the demonstration of that knowledge.
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Religious people (just like any other ideologist) don't have any moral by themselves. Their so called "moral" is only a fear of some supernatural creature assraping you if you don't do as it says. On the other hand, if you do, you're awarded with 77 hardcore gamers waiting for you in heaven.
Well, the moral in science is, that giving away the knowlegde, you give an opportunity for someone else to solve the dilemma. In science, there are no problems that can't be solved, some just take longer than the others.
Paperboy_J said:
Now that I think about it... isn't any long-standing, widely accepted belief technically a religion? The belief that we should live long, healthy lives is a religion, is it not? The believe that war is bad and we should be at peace is a religion. The belief that science is important is a religion.
I think we all live by some form of religion, even if we don't want to admit it. |
No it isn't a religion - although you can make one based on them, if you like to.
o_O.Q said:
"All of the stories told about them have been discovered to be fake based on scientific discoveries"
if the polar ice caps melted entirely would there not be a flood like what has been described in the bible?
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No there wouldn't. Firstly, assuming the polar ice (and Greenland) would melt, it would take thousands of years, and even then, the sea level would rise only about 70 meters.
Also, because the arctic ice floats on sea, it would have no effect on sea level anyway.
Chrizum said:
Hedra42, Pemalite, Aura7541 and others are doing a fine job pointing out the holes in this guy's logic, but I'd recommend to stop wasting your time as this discussion is going nowhere. I don't get the idea that he is capable or even willing to to have a proper discussion by dodging question, twisting definitions, effectively being as slippery as a snake in these conversations.
Spare yourself some frustration guys. |
But it is done so that other people would learn, not to argue for the sake of arguing or to convince out of his/her religious beliefs.
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