Which Is A Bigger Threat To Humanity? Science Or Religion?

[o_O.Q]

Pemalite said:

o_O.Q said:

on what evidence are you basing this claim?

What evidence do you have for the contrary being true?

o_O.Q said:

so therefore we're in agreement

Sort-of.

o_O.Q said:

no one has observed all of the matter of the universe springing from a singularity

you can't model a singularity

to compare this with gravity is really reaching don't you think? since we can observe it directly and can model the acceleration of 9.8 m/s

No one saw the Dinosaurs walk the Earth, but we know they existed.
Comparing it with gravity is accurate. They are both theories. They both have evidence. They both have working models.

And we can model it thanks to the Cosmic Microwave Background or CMB. - I already posted information regarding this piece of evidence for the big bang a few replies back, clearly you haven't read it, clearly you need to scuttle off and do so. So get to it. Chop chop.

o_O.Q said:
yes... we call that faith

No. That is not faith. Lack of evidence or incorrect information is not faith.

Faith is merely believing in something despite any precedent or evidence.

o_O.Q said:
that's great, but it doesn't change that fact that they had faith in things back then that were not true

You are conflating two separate arguments, fact is... Faith is a load of bullshit and is a completely separate construct to that of science.

o_O.Q said:
japan is well on the path to collapse with the strain their aging population will put on the country in the next few decades

You are conflating a completely separate issue that has absolutely nothing to do with religion or atheism? Right.

o_O.Q said:
what do you think of the soviet union and maoist china?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_irreligion

"What evidence do you have for the contrary being true?"

none

 

"Comparing it with gravity is accurate. They are both theories. They both have evidence. They both have working models."

i don't think scientists working in the field would put both on the same level but ok

and i'll repeat, you cannot model a singularity

 

"And we can model it thanks to the Cosmic Microwave Background or CMB."

are you claiming that you can model a singularity using CMB? can i get a quote on that?

 

" Lack of evidence or incorrect information is not faith."

correct, but belief in something without adequate evidence is faith though which is what i said... and in every case i brought up, the people believed and acted on their belief

 

"Faith is merely believing in something despite any precedent or evidence."

there always has to be some type of precedent or cause associated with a belief, people don't just believe things in a vacuum, there is always some type of stimulus that affects their behavior

people may believe in god because of a book, or spiritual experience or whatever

the other thing is that people regard these things as evidence to themselves subjectively so what you put there is not entirely right 

 

there is a reason for example that the doctors of the past believe in blood letting just as the christian believes in god because of their bible

 

"You are conflating two separate arguments, fact is... Faith is a load of bullshit and is a completely separate construct to that of science."

its ironic that you'd say that... you spoke of CMB before 

have you personally done the experiments to verify the existence of it? if not you therefore have faith in what the scientists who have are telling you correct?

that's not to call their evidence into question but to demonstrate that you right now have faith and you can take issue with  me saying that but if you're being objective you'll know that its the truth

 

 "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_irreligion"

those are not atheist countries, just secular... you said specifically atheist countries previously