Pemalite said:
o_O.Q said:
religion caused the united states to bomb syria? which religion?
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There are conflicts between Buddhists in Asia.
There are conflicts in Africa due to Christianity and Islam. (Lord Kony ring a bell?)
Religious Terrorism is a concern across the globe.
o_O.Q said:
why don't you try to pray for yourself and see if it has any impact on your condition? |
Because I am not an idiot?
Besides, even if a theistic deity did hypothetically exist, said deity would not interfere in the affairs of man anyway, making the entire process completely and utterly a waste of time.
o_O.Q said:
the point i made is that climate change is caused as a result of science in terms of the current global warming trends... had religion been allowed to suppress science, then it would not have happened... do you disagree with that? |
Climate change is also caused by non-human influences.
So no, even if religion did suppress science, climate change would still have occurred, it just wouldn't have occurred at the same accelerated state that we are seeing currently.
But without science we would never have understood that.
o_O.Q said:
like the soviet union? and maoist china? beyond them i can't name another atheist nation... can you give an example? because the two i listed would be terrible examples |
Japan.
o_O.Q said:
the big bang is still considered a theory which is another way of saying proposition |
This just reinforces the idea that you have ZERO god damn idea about science.
A scientific theory is the complete opposite of the regular "theory" that you cling to. - The Big bang has fucking evidence. (Which I linked to, go read it and get educated.)
"Just a theory?" - Guess what?
* The theory of gravity is just a theory. (Go drop an Apple.)
* General relativity is just a theory. (Our GPS system wouldn't work without it.)
* Evolution is just a theory. (Our medical systems use it to predict disease outbreaks and new upcoming strains, aka. Seasonal Flu.)
* Field Theory is just a theory.
* Quantum Mechanics is just a theory.
* Thermodynamics is just a theory.
* Conservation of Energy is just a theory.
* Fluid Dynamics is just a theory.
* Special Relativity is just a theory.
And guess what? We use all them in real life, today.
A scientific theory is something that has been observed, has evidence, working models. - It's usually the religious nuts that will claim they are just "a theory" and thus not real, making their position ignorant and just plain wrong.
o_O.Q said:
they had faith that the evidence presented in these cases was accurate and as a result they used harmful procedures or pushed lies... how can you really deny that?
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No. You are wrong.
They had a lack of information to come to an appropriate conclusion, science is allowed to be wrong, in-fact, science will happily change it's position on something as soon as new information/evidence comes available. - And that happens often.
o_O.Q said:
if the polar ice caps melted entirely would there not be a flood like what has been described in the bible? |
It wouldn't cover 100% of the planet. Go look at the models.
https://www.vicchi.org/2013/11/07/maps-for-when-the-ice-caps-melt-and-when-the-magnetic-poles-reverse/
There is also zero evidence of a world-wide flood that was depicted in the middle-eastern Abrahamic religions. (Christianity, Judaism and Islam)
Australia for instance has the oldest, most nutrient-poor, un-touched soils in the world, meaning there was no hydrological event in the interior of the continent.
Anyone who believes the Genesis account anyway is wrong, science has thoroughly debunked it.
Yerm said:
the Bible states that God started to feel as if the living being he created were becoming evil, or for lack of a better, so he takes it upon himself to flood the ENTIRE PLANET with a heavy rainfall to kill off all life and start again.
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That just reinforces the idea that God is an immoral, hateful, evil monster and shouldn't be worshiped.
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"Religious Terrorism is a concern across the globe."
i didn't deny that, but you didn't acknowledge that there's also conflicts outside of that, you made it seem like if it was all due to religion
" said deity would not interfere in the affairs of man anyway, making the entire process completely and utterly a waste of time."
on what evidence are you basing this claim?
"Climate change is also caused by non-human influences."
"the point i made is that climate change is caused as a result of science in terms of the current global warming trends"
"it just wouldn't have occurred at the same accelerated state that we are seeing currently."
so therefore we're in agreement
"The theory of gravity is just a theory."
are you really putting the big bang up against something like gravity as a comparison?
"A scientific theory is something that has been observed, has evidence, working models."
no one has observed all of the matter of the universe springing from a singularity
you can't model a singularity
to compare this with gravity is really reaching don't you think? since we can observe it directly and can model the acceleration of 9.8 m/s
"They had a lack of information to come to an appropriate conclusion"
yes... we call that faith
"science is allowed to be wrong"
that's great, but it doesn't change that fact that they had faith in things back then that were not true
"Japan."
japan is well on the path to collapse with the strain their aging population will put on the country in the next few decades
what do you think of the soviet union and maoist china?
"It wouldn't cover 100% of the planet. Go look at the models. "
i haven't... tbh i was just joking with that comment anyway
