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SvennoJ on 10 January 2018
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o_O.Q said:
SvennoJ said:

Would you rather go back to the time of the small pox, bubonic plague, spanish flu etc to keep the population in check?

And get rid of the internet, cars, central air, guaranteed food/water supply and go back to living as hunters/gatherers. Not that that's sustainable with 7 billion people. It's science that proposes solutions for more sustainable living, it's belief or rather disbelief in science that stops people listening... Money >>>> Science and religion. The greed for money is the biggest threat to humanity.

i'm not taking a position here, i just listed some disagreements i had with your post

"It's science that proposes solutions for more sustainable living"

in some ways yes and in other ways no

"Money >>>> Science and religion. The greed for money is the biggest threat to humanity."

i think many people work as hard as they do to gather resources/money... if you took that away i'm pretty sure most people wouldn't be motivated to work as hard as they do

Perhaps people don't need to work as hard as they do. Yet the dream is to become the one with the private jet and a garage full of gas guzzling monsters. Or a bit less ambitious, a nice house in the suburbs which requires a long daily polluting commute. Science made that possible. It's also proposing cleaner ways, yet those are more costly and thus not cool.

Both religion and science offer sustaining ways of life anyway. You can build your own house in Alaska off the grid and use solar power and any other technologies to become completely independent. Or you can become Amish and set the clock back to before the industrial revolution.

Neither are a solution for 7 billion people. A holy war can cull the population with science. Or people can smarten up and start using greener tech to preserve their long term lifestyle. Or we can just wait and see what happens. Religion certainly won't save us, science has a better chance. A small one. Short term profits are more important.

Biggest threat to humanity is apathy!