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Hedra42 said:
o_O.Q said:

"n answer to your first question, yes, and yes. Quite apart from experiments that have been conducted since the late 19th century proving their existence, electrons have been imaged and filmed using quantum microscopes since 2008. https://phys.org/news/2008-02-electron.html"

ok that was a bad example but the point i was making is that in the scientific community there is a fair deal of faith in things that do not at present have conclusive evidence

but i do acknowledge your argument that we have solved various problems through thorough research and i wasn't ever denying that, i'm just saying that at times we take risks that have far reaching consequences for us and the environment

Where is your evidence supporting your point that "in the scientific community there is a fair deal of faith in things that do not at present have conclusive evidence" ?

Scientists may propose theories to explain a phenomenon that they are investigating, but don't confuse that with faith. Theories are not proposed to be believed in. They are proposed so that they can be tested again and again until they are either proved, disproved or modified based on ongoing experiments and observations.  An example of this process can be found in the piece 'A Brief Outline of the Development of the Theory of Relativity'  https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/A_Brief_Outline_of_the_Development_of_the_Theory_of_Relativity by Albert Einstein.

And yes, regarding your final point, I have already explained the intrinsic risks that are taken with taking steps into the unknown, and have even provided links to examples. What point are you trying to make about this? That we should never have progressed from the stone age?

I haven't seen, at any point in this thread, at least up until this post, you backing up any of your claims with evidence. Please, if you are going to respond to this post, back it up with a credible source.

 

 

"Where is your evidence supporting your point that "in the scientific community there is a fair deal of faith in things that do not at present have conclusive evidence" ?"

for example

https://www.healio.com/hematology-oncology/news/print/hemonc-today/%7B630731c4-d1a3-4d77-94b9-8a2850da4f0e%7D/bloodletting-an-early-treatment-used-by-barbers-surgeons

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/aso/databank/entries/do53pi.html

http://art-bin.com/art/hanson_en.html

 

"Scientists may propose theories to explain a phenomenon that they are investigating, but don't confuse that with faith. Theories are not proposed to be believed in."

many people believe in the big bang even though its just a proposition... its quite alright to say that its just a proposition... but people don't really behave like that's the case with these things

 

" What point are you trying to make about this? That we should never have progressed from the stone age?"

maybe, i mean at least we'd still have dodos

 

"I haven't seen, at any point in this thread, at least up until this post, you backing up any of your claims with evidence. "

which claims?

Last edited by o_O.Q - on 10 January 2018