SvennoJ said:
o_O.Q said:
"The collapse of Mesopotamia is partly attributed to ignorance about irrigation. They basically poisoned their own fields by letting the mineral salts build up in the top layer of the soil. Humans are very capable of wiping themselves out.
Processes we developed have yielded far better results in sustaining farm land than without science."
"A lot of extinctions have resulted from going about our ways without properly understanding how things work. Like spreading diseases, introducing plants and wildlife into new areas that can't cope with it. Over fishing, is that caused by science making fishing more efficient or by ignorance or willfully ignoring the impact on the ecosystem."
as a result of technological advancement without understanding the consequences... so you're pretty much pushing the science is more dangerous side
you have to acknowledge that this is a constant problem for mankind, we never know completely what the consequences of adopting new technology will be
"However religion is still perfectly fine to have you reproduce like rabbits. Over population is the biggest problem. Having 1 less kid will save the environment more than anything else you can possibly do."
i could argue that overpopulation occurs because science has increased the standard of living for humans, stopping us from falling to the causes that would naturally keep our population in check
i'd also argue that its not necessarily our population size that is the issue but how we live as a result of our use of technology
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Would you rather go back to the time of the small pox, bubonic plague, spanish flu etc to keep the population in check?
And get rid of the internet, cars, central air, guaranteed food/water supply and go back to living as hunters/gatherers. Not that that's sustainable with 7 billion people. It's science that proposes solutions for more sustainable living, it's belief or rather disbelief in science that stops people listening... Money >>>> Science and religion. The greed for money is the biggest threat to humanity.
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i'm not taking a position here, i just listed some disagreements i had with your post
"It's science that proposes solutions for more sustainable living"
in some ways yes and in other ways no
"Money >>>> Science and religion. The greed for money is the biggest threat to humanity."
i think many people work as hard as they do to gather resources/money... if you took that away i'm pretty sure most people wouldn't be motivated to work as hard as they do