| o_O.Q said: On the other hand, however, we have science which has developed every single weapon of destruction used throughout history to cause harm and directly affects our environment causing unwanted effects such as global warming and loss of biodiversity Atomic bombs, nuclear bombs, tanks, assault rifles, war planes, aircraft carriers, biological weapons... these are all technological devices created by science for one purpose- to end life The development of these and other weapons and the other peripheral effects i touched briefly on (global warming for example) have arguably lead to the loss of more life than the conflicts of religion have... so which is the greater threat to mankind? discuss |
Science has also provided the world with advanced medicines, vehicles with advanced safety features, electricity, clean running water, refrigeration to ensure foods don't go bad.
Science has likely saved billions of people over the last few centuries.
| o_O.Q said: but does it matter if in a couple centuries or so (by some estimates apparently) we are all flooded out when the ice caps melt completely? the ice caps melting most people would argue is a direct result of our technological progress not because of a natural phenomenon |
Science has the potential to stop/reverse that.
Religion does not.
| o_O.Q said: but scientific developments are what give people the capacity to cause great harm, if we didn't pollute the atmosphere, for example, global warming and the ridiculous amounts of destruction it has caused ( the loss of coral reefs and marine biodiversity ) and will cause on the future would not happen |
Fact of the matter is, nothing lasts forever.
The Earth will one day come to an end... That might not happen until our Star becomes a red giant... But it will still end.
Science will open up the possibility to avoid such a catastrophe'.
Plus... Population seems to be forever on the increase, without science we wouldn't have advanced farming practices and clean running water to the extent we have currently, thus famine and undernourishment would possibly be the norm.
| o_O.Q said: really? compared to the recent wars, the loss of biodiversity, rising global temperatures, increased hurricanes, nuclear disasters etc etc etc? i'm not sure about that myself when you look at this holistically |
Seems you already have a confirmation bias on this particular topic?
The Earth isn't destroyed, not yet anyway, Science still has plenty of time to solve these issues.
Ironically, it's the far-right, typically religious conservatives that are against the idea of things like climate change and thus the solution to many of those issues you have listed.
| jason1637 said: There's nothing wrong with religion so I say science. |
I am the complete opposite.
Science will reveal the real Truth.
Religion will make it's own Truth.
| justinian said: Science is a religion. Ultimate both priest and scientists ask us to believe in things we have no way of proving ourselves, whether it is a man in the sky or life on Jupiter. I cannot go to Jupiter to prove if this is true if Scientists say it is. |
Absolutely false.
Science requires empirical evidence, repeatable testing, working models. - It is then often written in a whitepaper and/or scientific journal which is then peer reviewed.
So you can see the process of how they came to their conclusions.
You can even go out and replicate the scientific process.
As for your Jupiter claim, you can use a Telescope to see it for your self... That is the power of Science, religion on the other hand... Your only option is to believe the planet exists.
And as for life on other planets... Typically a probe is sent out that has gathered evidence that the public can observe for themselves.
| Wiibaron said: The biggest threat to humanity right now is unchecked human breeding. Lack of religion is a big part of this. Science lets humans live maybe way longer than is optimal for a good balance of productive contribution to humanity. And with the growing population of low quality younger people needed to pay and help the increasing amount of older folks, the future looks bleak. |
Maybe religions should stop being against same-sex marriage, euthanasia, abortions and birth control if unchecked population increases are such a massive concern?
| dgboweniii said: Christian's want to stake their claim on the Bible, which is a book written by some old guys, than was packaged by the romans to control the jews. "Faith" is the answer. (I am a Christian but I am not delusional) |
"Faith" is not the answer.
Faith by it's very definition is belief without evidence.
You can also disbelieve in a particular deity based on "faith". - Thus faith is not a path to truth.
| RaptorChrist said: Lastly, and I'm sure that I'm not the only person to think about this, but... There are so many different religions with conflicting views. They can't all be right, so what do religious people think of other religions besides their own? |
Indeed. There are over 4,000+ religions in the world, many claim their religion is the truth, that their deity/deities are the only true one.
Even large theistic religions like Christianity have hundreds/thousands of denominations and not all of them agree on everything.
Asking for evidence to justify their religious claims is the only true logical approach in my eyes.
| Eagle367 said: O would argue religion does not cause wars it is only the excuse used to rally the ignorant masses just like blind patriotism and nationalism. You know how many people the US has killed in the name of "national security". |
Doesn't exactly help when various religions like Christianity and Islam promote things like slavery, women serving men, against divorce, death to homosexuals, stoning of children.
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