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Cerebralbore101 on 07 January 2018
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o_O.Q said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

Well for starters, he wasn't democratically elected. 

"Oh but you see we're not a Democracy, but a Republic. The founding fathers didn't want a rule of the majority, so they setup the Electoral College to prevent that!"

Yeah, yeah, X people's votes shouldn't count. It's the rallying cry of every fascist regime ever. China, Russia, and every other tinpot dictatorship around the world is technically a Republic too ya know? Not to mention, the creation of the electoral college was a result of the infamous 3/5ths compromise. Northern states didn't think it would be fair for southern states to be able to count slaves as people towards representation. Southern states didn't think it would be fair to not count slaves at all. Of course, in hindsight, obviously having slaves who were ineligible to vote, being electorally represented, at the ballot box, by the very people who put them in chains, is fascist. But the founding fathers either weren't bright enough to see this due to their cultural bias, or were forced to make a compromise either way. 

Second, his list of travel banned countries was authoritarian. But he's not the only authoritarian president. There have been many starting with Andrew Jackson. The office of the presidency needs to be reigned in massively. 

 

"Well for starters, he wasn't democratically elected. "

the united states is not a democracy... its a republic

 

"It's the rallying cry of every fascist regime ever. China, Russia, and every other tinpot dictatorship around the world is technically a Republic too ya know?"

the vast majority of people i've seen use this word over the past year or so, do not really understand what it means

 

ok let me give an example lets say i have a group of 10 people and 6 people (the majority obviously) democratically get to determine what policies the group has to follow... lets say they then decide to silence the opinions of the remaining 4... is this fascism under democracy? or not?

what is the solution to this problem? can you guess?

 

"Second, his list of travel banned countries was authoritarian. But he's not the only authoritarian president."

how can he be authoritarian towards citizens of other countries? doesn't that only apply to people who are citizens of your own country?

 

"founding fathers either weren't bright enough to see this or were forced to make a compromise"

the founding fathers were leviathan intelligences and when their gifts are completely thrown away, the consequences for us citizens will be dire

I know you read the bolded. Please don't argue as if you didn't. 

"ok let me give an example lets say i have a group of 10 people and 6 people (the majority obviously) democratically get to determine what policies the group has to follow... lets say they then decide to silence the opinions of the remaining 4... is this fascism under democracy? or not?"

Yes, but banning fake news isn't silencing the opposition in the same way that a fascist regime would do. There's a difference between, "I'm going to fine you if you don't remain as objective and neutral as possible", and "I'm going to throw you in jail if you so much as say anything against the ruling party."

"how can he be authoritarian towards citizens of other countries? doesn't that only apply to people who are citizens of your own country?"

All executive orders are authoritarian.