Why Sony should also use a Cell Processor for PS5 (x86+Cell coprocessor)

[Pemalite]

KratosLives said:

Pemalite said:

What you describe will happen with/without Cell.

Maybe, but i still think had they gone with cell we'd have a more powerful processor on the ps4 and possibly ps5.

Or it might not have. Jaguar is a well balanced architecture, more so than Cell ever was.

KBG29 said:

Had Sony actually utilized Cell in the way Kutaragi road mapped it, they would be in a better position than Apple and Google are now. If they had Cell in every Sony device, they would have gained massive support, and R&D would have continued. It would be very interesting to see an alternate path where they dropped a PlayStation Portable with Micro Cell, and delivered the high end PS3 Ken promised the A/V community.

With every Sony device, TV, Phone, Console, Portable, Reciever, Audio Deck, etc. running on some form of Cell, and a common OS things would have turned out a lot different. Sadly Sony didn't have a grasp on the company at the time, and the divisions where horrible at working together.

Having it in every Sony device wouldn't have been enough.
Sony doesn't shift near enough volume in Televisions, Consoles and other Audio/Video electronics to give Cell even remotely the same amount of marketshare as say... ARM or x86 which are stupidly prolific and not vendor-exclusive.

Besides, Toshiba tried Cell in a TV. It was a colossal failure.

For Phones, Portables, Receivers and Audio equipment, MIPS and ARM fills those roles... And they only cost cents/dollars and are super low power.

KBG29 said:

Moving forward they have dropped Cell and are seeing success with X86 on PS4. Hopefully Kaz has enough sway to get them unified across all divisions in the next decade. They can build an excellent ecosystem around X86 with AMD and the PS4 OS. Maybe down the road they can bing their chip development in house if they are successful enough, like we are seeing with Apple. We will probably never see anything as radical as Cell again, but it is possible with enough sway in the market.

Building a CPU design from the ground up is extremely capital intensive.
Plus it's now 2018, CPU's are orders-of-magnitude larger and more complex than what the Cell was, which means it would cost even more money and time to develop.

Sony simply doesn't have the resources for that anymore.

But that is also not a bad thing, AMD, Intel and ARM combined spend billions on R&D improving their designs every year, so Sony can ride on their success and innovate in other areas instead.

KBG29 said:

Any continued success though is very dependent on dropping Android and ARM from their Phones and TVs, and building a Sony experience across all of their platforms. Thus the PS5 has to stick to X86 and simplicity that can scale across all of Sonys products.

I disagree.
Apple isn't one of the largest technology companies on Earth because they stuck with x86 and have a degree of simplicity across all of their products.

Rather what Apple does is use the best technology available for their device.

Got a high-end Mac desktop PC? Nothing than a couple of high-end x86 processors will do.
Got a Macbook? Then an energy efficient Core processor is your best bet.
Got an iPhone? ARM is the only real option here, they are energy efficient and capable.
Got an iPad? Again. ARM.

And yet... Even despite the fact that the Mac and iPhone use different OS and processor variants... Apple provides a good experience across all it's devices.