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Snoopy said:
Normchacho said:

1. But what does that have to do with the strength of their lineup?

2. I don't even understand how you can seriously make this argument. "Sure, the vast VAST majority of Xbox One gamers will be playing the worst version of most multiplatform games. But they're getting the best version...I promise."

1. Longevity and more games than the average consumer buy equals stronger lineup.

 

2. You don't know if the vast majority of original xbox one owners are playing the games worse than the original ps4 owners. When you take into count t.v., ISP, ect. Those can affect the game itself more than the console hardware. Especially since PS4 dominates countries in Europe where they can't afford a lot. PS4 owners can be playing games on 720p t.v. compare to an xbox one owner playing on 1080p t.v. All we know for a fact is the xbox one game has more potential than ps4 game with all the patches it recently received.  And as time goes by they will upgrade because we already know the xbox one x is doing well right now.

This must be the oddiest argument ever...

So since X1 is weaker than PS4, we have to assume that generally PS4 players are using worse internet, TVs, etc just to make their experience worse than X1?

And since when did Europe become poor? Also when a lot of X1 games are rendered in 720p what is the benefit of the 1080p TV for them?

Snoopy said:
CGI-Quality said:

How much money they have is irrelevant, obviously. It's never been enough for them to win a gen. It's like arguing about having more weaponry in a war, when the opponent beat you with ease.

Selling video game consoles doesn't determine success, but the games, subscriptions, ect does. For example, technically the ps3 overlap 360 in hardware sales. However, since the 360 controlled United States and U.K. they had a higher software attach ratio. If I remember correctly it was almost 2:1 in 360 favor regarding software attach ratio. United States and U.K are the most important regions by far. If you do well in those regions, you are set. Which is why even if xbox one doesn't sell well in other regions they will be okay. 

Not you remember totally wrong. SW for both ps3 and x360 is quite similar with X360 managing higher due to earlier release and sure more concentration in US+UK.

Are you again just messing with everyone?

yvanjean said:
DonFerrari said:

They have been promising to increase their 1st party output since the start of the gen.. so it isn't something that is new and they are having to cover up, it's their fault for a long time.

They made bad investment that din't pan out some that we know publicly (Fable Legends, Scalebound & Knoxville) and some that probably never took off behind close door.  Microsoft made an investment in Kinect 2.0 that must of included a bunch of games and most of them must of have been cancel after Phil Spencer took over. Aaron Greenberg and Phil Spencer have both mention that there are unannounced new IP and projects. They also hinted that they have expended their Coalition and 343 studios and working on multiple projects. These games weren't in the stage to be shown to the public yet at E3 2017. 

This could simply be optimistic thinking from a Microsoft supporter but there is a X factor (so for the pun) and that's the Xbox One X. You don't invest in development and marketing costs of Xbox one X without having software support to follow.   The investment in New software would of came in mid 2015 to mid 2016. Development cycle for bigger games would be 3-5 years.... 2018-2020 window....

I'll rephrase, they have been saying they are upping their 1st party every year for the last 4y while at the same time saying they have plenty exclusives and also try short term solutions with buying exclusive rights for some key games.



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