| AngryLittleAlchemist said: ...Not really. I agree that there is an issue people have with being too infatuated with gaming and getting addicted to it. That's a problem that pretty much every hobby or activity can have but for gaming it's probably way easier to get addicted as opposed to other hobbies. Still, I don't see how saying "Well of course this is going to be the response when i'm the only one who can admit there's an issue gosh darnit!" is justified when that's clearly not what I am saying. It really sounds like you're saying this to pretend like you're on a high ground of self awareness. Lol no, I too understand this is an issue with gamers. My point about it being "literal" was this : I said that you are being very liberal with what you consider a "mental condition", as in referring to a bad condition. Because, ya know, most people don't just randomly reply to someone with "Oh good morning Mr. Rogers I have a great mental condition today!". And in the context of the discussion we were obviously talking about a negative mental condition. You replied saying basically "No, I was being literal, because any mental state is a mental condition". Not even in the same ball park of the discussion, redundant, and a huge stretch to make a statement literal. Now if you want to say that Gaming Disorder is a bad mental condition, that's fine and I think you could say that literally. But that's not even what we were disagreeing on. Again, you are not addressing the point. I'm saying considering 2 hours of play time a day worthy of being called a "condition" is ridiculous. Not that Gaming Disorder isn't a negative mental condition... |
With or without context I'm right either way and in the grammatical sense I end up being right too so what is your point ? Also, 2 hours is what I would call a breaking point ...
| AngryLittleAlchemist said:
What the fuck are you even talking about at this point? Are you going to actually respond to what I said word for word or are you just going to ask a random question? I don't think I said that bad gaming addictions are normal, but honestly I don't even know what you're referring to... |
We're only arguing the extent ...
| AngryLittleAlchemist said: I suppose your reply to this too will be that this is a "literal" statement but again, it begs the question, what is the "needed" amount of time for gaming? Because I'd say most people think 2 hours is pretty ok. There is no set amount of time "needed for gaming", so your point is almost irrelevant. It's always going to be a balance of priorities with anything including a job or socializing etc. This is just kind of a non point, you're essentially saying "it's absolutely shitty to spend more time than needed for a hobby" - but the entire discussion was about what constitutes as "needed", or more accurately(needed is such a silly statement for gaming) "unacceptable" time frames . So you're just making a statement that doesn't really mean anything. The entire discussion is about what's excessive and what isn't, so saying it's shitty to be excessive is a no duh. It's very weird that you practically replied to nothing I said ... lol. And before you say something like "Wow so triggered look at this reply" or "wow I hit a nerve" I am willing to admit that other facets of my life are mentally unstable and that I have bad mental health with my own conditions. Gaming addiction just isn't one of them, so I'd certainly not be defensive over it haha. I genuinely want to/can't understand your opinion. |
When you think about the attach ratio on each systems with their lifetime, people buy a little less than 2 games per year whereas most of us purchase at least 5 or more so we're already abnormal range so to speak. Are you really going to push for the upper limit when this study says otherwise ? Just a moderate change in gaming habits can adversely affect your physical health condition such as your BMI, vision and attention ...
| setsunatenshi said: Great rebuttal, it made total sense and you really proved your point with this one :) |
LEL ...
| setsunatenshi said: From the OP: "Increasing priority given to gaming, to the extent that gaming takes priority over other interests and daily activities." I call this doing it right. The only disorder I see is prioritizing other interests or daily activities over gaming :) |
How does it feel to get your so called "passion" shat on by some stranger on the internet far younger than you who is a middle aged man that can't even get their own priorities set straight in life ? 
It thanks to you that we gamers get bad stereotype and bad rep ... (keep proving the WHO right that gaming is a scourge)
| Cerebralbore101 said: Why is a mere 15 hours of gaming a week a mental condition? What if I spent 15 hours a week reading novels? Is that a mental condition? What about 15 hours a week walking and playing with my dog? Sorry, but a normal healthy workweek is 40 hours, and after exercise, chores, etc., you should have around 45 hours of freetime a week. This assumes you workout ten hours a week, and sleep 8 hours a day. It's normal and perfectly healthy to use that 45 hours of downtime doing whatever makes you happy. I'd argue that not spending at least 30 hours a week doing things you like constitutes a real mental condition. It's called workaholicism, and it's much more prevalent than videogame addiction. Something is only an addiction if it seriously interferes with your life. If you leave stacks of dirty dishes, don't eat healthy, rarely exercise, and have no social life, then you have an addiction. |
You realize that extended gaming has all around delirious effects compared to those activities, right ? Having 45 hours of free time each week is on the higher end, most of those employed full time can't even find 30 hours of free time let alone 45 hours ...
