Flilix said:
Societal cohesion certainly helped religion to become extremely popular. It also helped countries to maintain a strong control over their people. The Arabian Empire for instance, mangaded to become one of the most powerful empires in the world in only a few decades, simply because they forced their ideology on the conquered people. Another example: the Pope gathered an army of thousands of people to fight in the Holy Land, just with a few simple promises. And I still don't know why you keep referring to anarcho-communists. Only a minority of the current Western society is Marxistic or communistic. And out of these few communists, only a minority is anarchistic. The benefits of atheism are the problems with religion.
Because it's too difficult to get rid off. Same thing with alcohol. |
"But how has that helped humanity? "
civilisation is impossible if there is no common thread binding people together, the problem is that it must be balanced with giving people enough freedom to express themselves properly, innovate, come up with new ideas etc etc etc
something else that i've noticed people don't tend to realise is that if you wiped all of the older traditional religions off the planet completely you'd still have the subconscious drive that leads to people adopting those belief systems to begin with and i've demonstrated that in this thread already
for example there are many atheist that have completely rejected religion but what are their goals? for some such as the anarcho communists i've mentioned before, its to establish utopia (heaven) on earth under the state (god)
there's this unbelievably incorrect tendency to think that certain behavioral and thought patterns spawn only from religious people when they really are spawned continuously from all people
its why whenever i hear an atheist claim that once religion is destroyed completely everyone will be more rational, then they go on to say in the same breath that they want full equality for men and women, even though men and women are equal before the law and have been for decades
"Only a minority of the current Western society is Marxistic"
to continue my point above, lets say you walk down the street and ask 100 people if they think feminism is necessary because we still have not achieved equality between men and women, what percentage would you wager would say yes? i'd wager at least 50%
as i have already mentioned men and women do have equal rights and have for some time now.... so what are they talking about?
they are talking about equality of outcomes and that is inherently marxist... marxism is a lot more common than you appear to believe but then again i suppose we are in an era where linguistic games are being played to mask these things constantly
"And out of these few communists, only a minority is anarchistic."
can you explain rationally for me how anarchy is compatible with communism?
"The benefits of atheism are the problems with religion."
and i'll assume you mean the tendency to base decisions on evidence more and a more rational mind... but its not the case, as i said before the failing that causes people to be irrational does not spawn from religious belief... it spawns as a consequence of being a human being
