"Christianity, if false, is of no importance, and if true, of infinite importance. The only thing it cannot be is moderately important."

[o_O.Q]

Peh said:

clevited said:

I couldn't help but register and post after reading through most of this thread.

 

First, I am amazed at most of the mature discussion regarding such a subject, it is good to see. 

 

Second a little about me. I am Christian, but I also love science (I am a mechanical engineer). I had drifted  away from my faith for a time in my life only to be inexplicably drawn back to it, even after earning my degree and expanding my scientific knowledge for many years.

 

I find in any belief of there being no God, where science rules all, that there is a scientific area that cannot be proven or disproven and can explain God's very possible existence. 

 

Simply put, God can be a being from another dimension. If you think about what that means, supernatural occurances don't become automatically disregarded, the odd need for the world to have religion (even today) is explained. This idea opens up possibilities to things we cannot comprehend, and we may never understand because we do not live in such a higher dimension.

 

God's interactions could be interpreted into what we see today in religious texts. Even if one does not believe for instance, that the Bible is real, it could have truths in it. Just like any good legend, there is always at least a grain of truth in them.

 

One can also say (as crazy as this sounds) that God could be a very advanced alien. Maybe there is truth to all of the religions that existed or exist today, they were based off human interactions with aliens lol. It might sound crazy, but the scientific minded would know its incredibly likely aliens exist.

 

Now this might make our religions seem a little primative, but whos to say, scientific minded or not, atheist or whatever, that God or gods etc, can't or don't exist.

 

Sorry for my spelling, grammar etc, engineer, not an editor.

Edit:This is a fun read and makes the hamster wheels in my head turn a little.

http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/xdimgod.html

Welcome to the forum.

"I find in any belief of there being no God, where science rules all, that there is a scientific area that cannot be proven or disproven and can explain God's very possible existence." 

Are you familiar with the "god of the gaps" argument? 

"Simply put, God can be a being from another dimension."

That's what I don't like about apologists. You just take your God and place it somewhere where he cannot possible be found in order to say, "He exists there, prove me wrong". Not that the supernatural realm even exists in the first place, it's not a fact. I find it quite funny that the bible itself is not mentioning anything about dimensions, at all. Do you know where they put God in the beginning of writing the scripts? They place him in the sky. Why? Because no human being was able to get there to confirm that he is actually there. While we were able to go past that and even further, god was placed further and further away. Just to be sure that no one can disprove his existence.  

"This idea opens up possibilities to things we cannot comprehend, and we may never understand because we do not live in such a higher dimension." 

   This seems to go in the direction of agnosticism. Higher dimension have not been proved nor is there any trace of them actually existing. They are just concepts as of now.

 

"Not that the supernatural realm even exists in the first place"

 

of course it does, this is the definition of supernatural : "(of a manifestation or event) attributed to some force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature."

 

do you honestly believe that our scientific instrumentation and our senses are able to pick up all of the phenomena in existence?... dark matter all by itself disproves that idea if you do hold it