"Christianity, if false, is of no importance, and if true, of infinite importance. The only thing it cannot be is moderately important."

[Peh]

TH3-D0S3R said:

Peh said:

Atheists don't believe in deities. Atheism is not a beliefsystem as theism is. 

I don't say that some atheists say that god exists. Where did you get that?

I only said that there are people who are atheists by definition, but don't understand what it means when the make a claim about the existence of god. The correct way is to say that you don't believe that god exists. 

But saying that god doesn't exist is a claim which has to be proven. And they can't. No one can. Thus it would be stupid to even say something like that. Same as some theists say, "prove that god does not exist". That's not possible. You can't prove a negative. 

 

Hope that makes more sense now.

 

Hm...i guess I used disbelief wrong :/

I must of misunderstood the intial bolded quote where you said some probably do. I thought when you said that you were referring to atheists as a whole rather than those who did not understand atheism in general.

Either way, coming from the other side, now that I know what you meant to say it seems pretty reasonable and fair. And like you said, it's hard to prove God as a whole. I believe he's there and don't tend to question beyond that, but I instead tend to question tendencies in right and wrong. I do mostly understand the sort of atheist view as a whole though.

Well, the atheistic view ends on the question, do you believe in a god?

All that comes after that or even before that are the arguments and such. And they have nothing to do with atheism in itself, but rather with other positions which one is holding.

Meaning, there is no doctrine, no teaching, no goal, no answers, nothing in atheism. Everything else has to be found somewhere else. Most people go to science for these answers. Thus, people associate atheism with science. And thus they try to debunk or disprove atheism by attacking scientific theories. And that....fails all the time. Simply because a scientific theory is proven to be true and is supported by a huge amount of evidence.