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TH3-D0S3R on 27 December 2017
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Peh said:
TH3-D0S3R said:

But is that not hypocritical?

How can one say that they truly believe in a lack of God, meaning that to them there is no God, and yet say that some atheist may believe that God exists? This backtracks on nearly everything mentioned in the first sentence. You even state in the last sentence they don't believe in deities, and yet may acknowledge that God may exist. I'm no atheist, but that does not sound like atheism.

If you don't believe in God you can't acknowledge that there might be a God. I'm not trying to be hostile, but it comes off as a confused atheist or flat out agnostic.

Atheists don't believe in deities. Atheism is not a beliefsystem as theism is. 

I don't say that some atheists say that god exists. Where did you get that?

I only said that there are people who are atheists by definition, but don't understand what it means when the make a claim about the existence of god. The correct way is to say that you don't believe that god exists. 

But saying that god doesn't exist is a claim which has to be proven. And they can't. No one can. Thus it would be stupid to even say something like that. Same as some theists say, "prove that god does not exist". That's not possible. You can't prove a negative. 

 

Hope that makes more sense now.

 

Hm...i guess I used disbelief wrong :/

I must of misunderstood the intial bolded quote where you said some probably do. I thought when you said that you were referring to atheists as a whole rather than those who did not understand atheism in general.

Either way, coming from the other side, now that I know what you meant to say it seems pretty reasonable and fair. And like you said, it's hard to prove God as a whole. I believe he's there and don't tend to question beyond that, but I instead tend to question tendencies in right and wrong. I do mostly understand the sort of atheist view as a whole though.