"Christianity, if false, is of no importance, and if true, of infinite importance. The only thing it cannot be is moderately important."

[Peh]

TH3-D0S3R said:

Peh said:

Well, you made a point there. But people spend resources regardless of them being true or not. It's what they think they are. But let us assume uber magical sky pony is real and all what he did in the past is real as well. I would still not be a fan of his. Hm.. so at one point it is important to know in order to adjust your life to it. 

 

If someone would proof that the story in the gospel never happened, than I wouldn't consider them being called Christians but rather Jews. 

For the rest of your reply, I have to get more into that.

Atheism is a disbelief. Atheists don't believe in a god or gods. They don't say that god does not exist. Well.. probably some do. But by definition, they simply don't believe. 

Atheist = átheos = Without God. 

Atheism is not about an assumption on a specific question. And atheist can believe in spiritual beings like angels, ghost and other stuff. They just don't believe in Deities. 

But is that not hypocritical?

How can one say that they truly believe in a lack of God, meaning that to them there is no God, and yet say that some atheist may believe that God exists? This backtracks on nearly everything mentioned in the first sentence. You even state in the last sentence they don't believe in deities, and yet may acknowledge that God may exist. I'm no atheist, but that does not sound like atheism.

If you don't believe in God you can't acknowledge that there might be a God. I'm not trying to be hostile, but it comes off as a confused atheist or flat out agnostic.

Atheists don't believe in deities. Atheism is not a beliefsystem as theism is. 

I don't say that some atheists say that god exists. Where did you get that?

I only said that there are people who are atheists by definition, but don't understand what it means when the make a claim about the existence of god. The correct way is to say that you don't believe that god exists. 

But saying that god doesn't exist is a claim which has to be proven. And they can't. No one can. Thus it would be stupid to even say something like that. Same as some theists say, "prove that god does not exist". That's not possible. You can't prove a negative. 

 

Hope that makes more sense now.

 

Hm...i guess I used disbelief wrong :/

Last edited by Peh - on 27 December 2017