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adisababa on 27 December 2017
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o_O.Q said:
vivster said:

No, it implies exactly that. We atheists do get an enormous amount of satisfaction from the fact that we're not complete morons and are in fact able to employ critical thinking. It's one of the very few things that helps to hold the balance against all the negative things we do receive because of our belief. It's not the main reason to "hold that position", it's one of the few things that helps us cope. Also, atheism isn't a position that you can hold. It's a mere byproduct of using the scientific method.

"We atheists do get an enormous amount of satisfaction from the fact that we're not complete morons and are in fact able to employ critical thinking" 

but the thing is... you (not you personally but atheists generally) end up following the same patterns of thought that religious people do and you have no idea how unbelievably amusing it is to see the lack of consistency and awareness

where do you think all of these anarcho-communist that want to bring heaven on earth are coming from? what about the people that want to bring about "equality"? its motivated by the same paradigms that influence religious people... the only different is that god is being replaced by the state/man

 

"It's one of the very few things that helps to hold the balance against all the negative things we do receive because of our belief"

i'm sorry but i don't buy that argument...atheism is the IN thing now, its trendy to be atheist in modern countries now especially among the youth, just look at the answers in this thread for example

to imply that you become some sort of a pariah for being an atheist just isn't in line with what's actually going on... if anything its more of the opposite

 

" it's one of the few things that helps us cope"

lol stop

 

"atheism isn't a position that you can hold. It's a mere byproduct of using the scientific method."

its actually not... you can't show me a scientific experiment that disproves a god or the supernatural... we can't even measure the vast majority of the matter around us

So you claim that atheism is a religion? Though it does share similarities with religion like conviction and a belief system, it is nowhere close to being a religion. There is one huge difference, we don't believe, or have faith in the supernatural or God or anything intangible. We use reasoning through lack of evidence, historical inconsistencies, unreliable sources and of course science. If god is being replaced by the state/man then that means we believe in something concrete and tangible rather than something that doesn't exist (since it hasn't been proven), and that by its very nature means that it is not a religion and thus their "paradigms of thought" are vastly different than that of the religious. The religious rely on faith while atheists use reasoning. 

I kinda agree however it would be a lie to say that it is not a by-product of science, I think the right thing to say is that it is not ONLY a by-product of science. There are a lot more elements at play here.