‘I have no idea what I saw’: Pentagon admits to secret UFO hunting program

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Zoombael said:

Flilix said:

To which extent can I trust my senses and my knowledge? I can think that my bed is made of wood, and I believe that wood can't move, but I can't be sure of either. It looks and feels like wood to me, but that idea is created in my head. I can never tell something with absolute certainty about the object itself. I can only tell things about how it appears to me. And even if it is actual wood, I can't know for sure if it's able to move or not. According to science it can't move, but I'm 'only' 99.9999...% sure that I can trust science.

You could argue that aliens visiting the earth is more likely than my bed moving, and that's probably true (although there's no way to actually calculate the likeliness). However, both are so unlikely that it makes absolutely no sense to believe either.

I told you where your error lies. I repeat, you do have a very clear picture what your bed contains, there are no unknown factors. It is a different story when it comes to science and the universe. However, you pretend you have the knowledge to determine how unlikely an extraterrestrial explorer is, that the human race is the pinnacle of intelligent life, we know all there is to know and we won't advance further - no matter the timeframe - 1 year, 1000 years, 10.000 years, that's it we are at the end of the line. Why pump money in all those sci fi technologies, if it's not going to lead anywhere? Sure, let's call it a day and be satisfied with what we have.

Hell, the universe propably doesn't exist anyway and we just imagine shit (including aliens).

https://futurism.com/cern-research-finds-the-universe-should-not-actually-exist/

That's a bit of a hyperbole. Of course we're still pumping money in new technology because we aren't yet able to do stuff that we already know we can do. While we do see our limits right now we're still far away from even reaching that limit.

As I said before in this thread, assuming that there might be things possible that we don't think are possible today is not useful at all. It's just dreaming. If you want to assess reality you have to take the numbers and calculations you can do now. Or else you might as well assume that magic exists and throw all probabilities out of the window. That's just stupid. There are smarter people than us working to expand our understanding but right now it's best to roll with what we know and keep using the scientific method, which has never failed on us and has advanced our knowledge and understanding and will do so in the future.

By forgoing the scientific method we do all of science a disservice. I'd rather believe someone who says "it's highly unlikely because I did the math" than someone who says "it could easily be because of magic!" Because one of those people will advance our understanding even if he is wrong right now and the other one is rambling incoherent nonsense that will lead nowhere.