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caffeinade on 26 December 2017
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Ruler said:
Mr Puggsly said:
A few thoughts...

If Sony wants to avoid CPU bottleneck they should simply use a better CPU. Its not a like the Jaguar was cutting edge tech in 2013. The reason a game like Uncharted 4 looks so good is because they focused on GPU power.

Uncharted 2 and Last of Us don't look a generation above. Games like Gears 3/Judgement and Halo 4 look comparable. While a game like GTAV was arguably the most impressive title of the generation. But all these games look great because of GPU, not CPU. Its GPU that pushes graphics.

Look at PS4 and X1, its obvious what separates these two is the GPU advantage of PS4. That allows PS4 to have better resolutions and/or better visual effects.

If your specs are what PS5 is aiming for at $499, a potentially $250-299 X1X is gonna look appealing. Same amount of RAM, less than double the GPU power (mostly resolution disparity), while the biggest disparity would be CPU.

I don't believe Sony cares about PS3 BC. If they did, they would do it by software so they can sell you the games again.

Yeah sure you can always put a better CPU in there, like an Intel core i7 extreme edtion with 8 cores. But the problem a console is always facing is money, Sony would have pretty much to buy up what AMD is offering in 2019 if this is the release window, in this case the Ryzen. So there is not much they could do better on the CPU side of things.

I think A Cell processor+1Gb XDR2 Ram for under 50$ is good performance boost, especially if it gives you dual porpoise with BC.

You don't just buy a CPU and RAM, slam it in a box and be done with it.
That isn't how it works.

If Sony did put a Cell in the PS5 they would have to live with that for the entire life-cycle of that console, meaning:
They would have to supply / develop an OS that is capable of running in such a system.
They would have to write an API, or extend an existing one to support the exotic hardware configuration.
They would have to teach developers how to get the maximum performance out of the Cell.
They would have to learn how to develop games that can leverage all of the Cell, to stay competitive with Microsoft and everyone else.
They would have to give up the performance of adding an SSD cache or another x86 core, or some more GPU core, or an FPGA or whatever.

All of that would cost more than $50 per unit.
And even at $50 per unit (or even one dollar) they could do so much more.

+ a Cell proving BC, is not necessary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goSgzyxwxVA
A Ryzen 1200 running Demon Souls just fine for a young emulator.
Given a first party developed emulator, and the CPU you define in your PS5 and PS3 games will run perfectly and beyond.
Without a Cell.

Last edited by caffeinade - on 26 December 2017