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HoangNhatAnh on 24 December 2017
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EricHiggin said:
SegataSanshiro said:

PS4 hardware didn't make a profit til 2014. Sony lowered the price 11th hour to $400 when MS announced thiers was $500 and it was $500 because of the Kinect.

My point was that the hardware cost itself, doesn't really matter in terms of retail price. While PS apparently is trying to stick to selling their hardware at cost if and when they can, even if a new PS4 handheld or PS hybrid were to come to market, there is nothing saying that PS couldn't subsidize the price at all.

HoangNhatAnh said:

You know Xbox is 500$ because Kinect, right? And PS4 didn't made money for Sony till mid 2014. Also, you are trying to compare home console to handheld system with mobile chip. At the moment, how many hours the battery life of hybrid playstation will last? 1.5 to 2 hours? Yeah, people will buy that while Microsoft will have the next Xbox that is at least 10 or 12 Tflops with 4k resolution

Yes, XB1 had Kinect, as it said in my previous post. Comparing home console to handheld? Hasn't Nin made it super clear that the Switch is a home console first but also a hybrid that can be taken on the go? How does that make the Switch strictly a mobile system with a mobile chip? What about the fact that PS4 and XB1 use a Jaguar CPU, which is a mobile part? Does that make them both mobile?

How many hours would a Ryzen mobile based PS hybrid last? Well considering there are laptops using these chips, with 8GB DDR4, and battery capacities around 3300mAh, in addition to article's stating they've experienced battery life anywhere from 4.5 to 11.5 hours, I would say it would be more than enough. Switch has a 4310mAh battery, with a much smaller screen, 4GB RAM, and is spec'd to have 2.5 to 6.5 hours of battery life. If the PS device was 720p instead of 1080p, you could expect even longer battery life.

PS would not only make a hybrid like Switch and allow XB to take the dedicated home console market, they would continue console and handheld/hybrid. All they need to do is keep their ecosystem the same between all devices, and they don't really have to worry about being 'taken down' by Nin or XB. A big reason PS3 went so poorly was because it was an entirely new ecosystem separate from what PS had in place. A big reason why PS4 is doing so well is because they have decided on a type of ecosystem and are sticking to it. If they can continue that same ecosystem with PS5, then they can start to add devices where it makes sense, knowing they have the ecosystem behind it already to back it up.

Yeah, Switch is a portable at core. PS4/Xbox 1 are home consoles, x86 for handheld is not even used for general public at the moment and all you said can happen in the paper with a 400$. even 500$ price point. Nintendo also have a franchise that can change the fate of handheld: Pokemon is what single saved GBA in the past. What Sony game can do that?