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Cerebralbore101 said:

Whether or not it is a future maybe title doesn't affect whether it is "crowdfunded" or not.

It makes a massive difference. If you can't see that, then there isn't any point in my explaining that point farther.

Cerebralbore101 said:

You've added further requirements to your own special definition.

I have not added any requirements to any definition, do not place words in my mouth.
I merely pointed out the differences between a crowd funded project and a regular project, if you do not agree with that, that's fine.


Cerebralbore101 said:

But let's work with your special definition further.  Under your definition of "crowdfunding" Skyrim's expansions were "crowdfunded" with sales of the base game.

No. That is your definition not mine.
Bethesda already had it's funding or accrued funding from a source prior to the starting of a project and didn't require a campaign to get it. - Likely a loan from it's parent company or investor.

Cerebralbore101 said:

Also, under your definition of "crowdfunding" PUBG is crowdfunded by it's sales.

If that is the case... Then sure. But I haven't actually looked at how PUBG accrues it's funding... And thus cannot really speak as to whether it is crowd funded or not... And honestly, I don't care.

Cerebralbore101 said:

No matter which way you slice it CIG's marketing department is full of BS.

That is your opinion, you are entitled to it, even if you are incorrect.

The entire point of Cloud Imperium Games marketing is to get more people to fund it... And at almost $175 million we can safely say it has worked.

Cerebralbore101 said:

And I explained that under his definition of crowdfunding nearly every game on the planet counts as crowdfunded. He then went on to add additional things to his definition saying that "oh it only counts as crowdfunding if it's for a current project". TIL: Calling a MTS game out for it's marketing lies = shitting on a thread. 

Have I conducted myself in such a manner where I can be misconstrued as someone who is intellectually disabled and thus requires you to speak on my behalf?
Don't put words in my mouth.


Cerebralbore101 said:

Nope, I was pointing out how his definition could be applied to literally everything. He's the one that decided to stretch the definition of words like investor and capital.

Sorry if the literal definitions of those words somehow upsets you.


Cerebralbore101 said:

According to Pemalite Capital = financial assets from sales.
According to Pemalite Crowdfunding = Any game that gains it's capital through a large number of people. 

There is obviously more to it than that, but nice job oversimplifying things.
The world isn't just black and white you know.

Cerebralbore101 said:

Sales of a game, or previous game in a series, come from a large number of people. Therefore, under Pemalite's definition almost every game on the planet is crowdfunded.

You are missing the key differences.
One is upfront about their funding and tends to run a campaign to accrue said funding... And that funding is to be used for the current title, not some future what-if title that no one knows about or is even a guaranteed game that will ever be developed.

A non-crowd funded game typically comes from an investor of some sort, be it a publisher, organization... Even successful developers like DICE crawl towards EA to accrue funding for a big project.
They don't actually initiate a massive campaign and plea for the public's help.

Cerebralbore101 said:
I rag on every game that nickels and dimes it's customers with micro-transactions and lies. I'm critical of Destiny 2, Battlefront II, Shadow of Moredollars, etc. Not sure what you mean by sub-PC threads. I just post in whatever threads I see in the sidebar, and whatever I feel like reading, or commenting on.

I have been a vocal opponent to micro-transactions, you are not alone. It is a bane upon this industry.

Last edited by Pemalite - on 20 December 2017

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