Valve removes Japanese game from steam because its audience are Pedophiles, according to them

[DonFerrari]

Otter said:

DonFerrari said:

Nope, I'm acknowledging that you are seeing it like this. And that unless you think someone that shoot pixels is a murderer then there is no point to be made of objetification.

Then again, why would a developer draw a frames of a 9 years old pointed up at their crotch whilst the character is sat staring down at the camera? You said such a thing is a illegal in real life, I said why would someone impose such a gaze on a virtual character? For the same pleasure they would do it in real life, objectification.

And in your second point you just conceded that you wouldn't care if it was sexualising virtual children so we can end our discussion there. My point was Valve correctly spotted it as fetishistic since you guys are acting like its innocent with no sexual gaze. 

And when are you going to turn yourself to jail time for all the pixel people you killed?

AlfredoTurkey said:

DonFerrari said:

I agree.

I do love children. I love my son, I love my nieces and nephews. I like to see pretty youngsters from 3 to 10 and their cute traces.

Same with being fond. When children aren't being crazy bulldozers I'm fond of them.

Probably it's western stupidity that think love is directly sexual.

We also should jail all teachers, nurses, pediatrics and others that threat child and love them, they are all clearly rapists...  

You see... being SFW with the authority on moral grounds allow you to decide what is acceptable or not, got it?

You should be terminated.

Except there is 0 sexual content.

That doesn't exempt the motive.

Their motive being?

WhatATimeToBeAlive said:

Shadow1980 said:

"Won't someone think of the fictional children!"

The game is arguably creepy as hell (though as far as I'm aware of there's no nudity or sex), and Valve is within their rights to decline to post any game for sales on their platform, but, as some have seriously suggested, to argue that people ought to be prosecuted for buying a game that has cartoon characters in it... what the fuck? Literally nobody is being hurt by this.  Even actual hentai games, including ones with sexual violence and/or loli/shota content don't hurt anyone. The characters are not human beings, so no real abuse of actual humans occurred during production. Equating consumption of loli hentai to actual acts of pedophilia is like equating acts of video game violence to actual murder. A lot of you have probably played games where your player character has committed violent crimes, even up to terrorism and war crimes depending on the game, and we've all racked up an impressive body count, and I'm sure you don't think you or anyone else should be punished in real life for it.

I tend to take as absolutist of a stance as possible when it comes to freedom of speech. Unless something causes actual, demonstrable harm to someone, it should not be banned. That basically means that child pornography, false advertisement, perjury, incitement, and threats should obviously be criminalized, and defamation should arguably be subject to civil liabilities. But video games or cartoons or comics that have creepy content? Fine by me. You do you. You aren't hurting anybody by playing/watching/reading it, and nobody was hurt by the production of it. People simply being offended or creeped out by something is not sufficient grounds for the government to ban it.

But games like this can affect people who are sexually attracted to children. It can for example lead them to think that "it doesn't hurt when I only take a look". And then they start to harass children by staring at them. And releasing games that sexualize children on Steam would mean a huge "normalisation" of the issue, which would be really bad. I am sure there are other, not so mainstream ways, to access this kind of material. 

So have we also changed the law to allow murder or do murderers now are all on a killing spree because shooters became massive genres for more than 15 years?

DetectiveKaito said:

Chazore said:

I know, but it's clear the trailer gives off them creep vibes. A screenshot would just allow all to see just what the game is trying to sell, rather than what we are led to believe in what it's selling. 

Why does that matter though? You could argue that Hatred's target audience is serial killers.

Games are a form of art, and blaming them for events that happen in real life is stupid. People are responsible for their own actions.

Remember when people said that video games make kids violent? Everyone knows that's bullshit.

It's funny how fast these guys will go for the throat of any news or celebrity that say VG is responsible to violent behavior, but at the same time are acting as if a game that have naked cartoon children make people pedophiles.