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fielding88 said:
VAMatt said:
As terrible as the US government is, it is nice to see that they get something right once in a while. NN is government overreach, plain and simple. I know big businesses would like to keep it around to protect their market positions. But, American people and small/medium businesses, as well as start-ups hoping to become big businesses, are far better off with this big business protection scheme.

How does the lack of NN help small businesses? And how do big businesses use NN to protect market positions?

I'm not sure how OP can make those statements while anti-NN actors are also big businesses trying to protect their markets and are hands deep in the federal government.

EricHiggin said:

The last time the farmers around here really needed to fix a market problem, they went about it the correct way for years, and got absolutely nowhere. They then tried to involve the media somewhat, but that was like pulling teeth and it didn't help much with the poor media execution. Eventually it got to the point where the politically right way wasn't going to work, so a last ditch effort, plan Z was put into effect. They all got together and picked a busy weekend, and drove their tractors down the highway side by side, as fast as they could, which isn't fast at all, blocking rush hour traffic for the entire Greater Toronto Area, which is like 6 million people.

That got the attention they wanted, and eventually led to a proper deal fixing the problem, but also led to quite a bit of hatred from the cities. The media even started bashing food prices constantly making the farmers look bad. Thing is, the problem had to do with tobacco, and the media and people were bashing and hurting the fruit and vegetable farmers mostly. Which isn't surprising because instead of those people realizing there was obviously a major problem, getting informed, and understanding why it happened, most only knew that they had been held up and were pissed off, end of story. While the city people weren't the direct cause of the problem, they were part of it indirectly, especially their media influence.

Either way, there were certainly many tensions for quite a long time between the urban and rural people, and it has overall led to things continuing to get worse for the farmers. Due to the backlash, the farmers don't dare try and cross that line again, which is a problem in itself, because when there are new major problems, which there have been, getting publicity, backing, and change, has been a lost cause. Hence why the country kids are simply just leaving. Being inconvenienced for a couple of days is going to seem like a day at Disney compared to the years of price gouging that may end up occurring eventually.

Yeah, I fear for what the future may have in store, feels like we're going towards a breaking point without any solution.