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Biggerboat1 said:

I don't disagree that OLED's strength (per-pixel illumination) is also a weakness but as I've stated, mines is 2 years in and there are no noticable signs of burn-in. If I get 5 years of optimal (or near-optimal) viewing out of the set, I'll be more than happy. There are countless examples of tech which degrades over time - it's not to say that this fact should be celebrated but it is not specific to OLEDs. That said, a non-OLED will last you longer without issue. So that's the choice really - the best viewing experience for the medium-term or a slightly lesser experience for the longer term. 'Pop' is a bit of a vague term I guess but the ability for neighbouring pixels to display completely independently means that the detail in contrast is dramatic - that's what I was getting at.

I feel I'm starting to repeat myself now and as I've said before - I'm by no means a TV expert but the almost universal acclaim for OLEDs from almost every reviewer out there must mean something...

The Galaxy S8's & the iPhone X's celebrated screens are both OLED - and Apple apparently paid Samsung a fortune for the privilege. In general critics have been raving about both screens - so it's definitely not a case of the Emperor's new clothes. As you've said - if you sat in front of one in the right conditions then I'm sure you'd see what everyone else is seeing :)

I listen to about 4 or 5 gaming podcasts a week and a good chunk of those journalists have either invested in an OLED or intend to when the prices drop. And none of them have complained of burn-in (yet anyway).

Anyway, I'm sure you're TV is also great!

I've had that feeling for a while :)

But that's one thing I would like to know before buying: So that's the choice really - the best viewing experience for the medium-term or a slightly lesser experience for the longer term. What term is that, what is slightly lesser, etc.

An Oled tv for personal use while taking care not to play the same game or same channel all year long probably should have little problems. That's not my use case though or for many people that buy tvs. It's usually a shared item and kids are prone to get fixated on one or two games that they'll play for years. No clue how many hours have gone into minecraft so far and all the different lego games (all with the same hud elements)

Thanks, tv is indeed great. Still makes me stop and admire the pq 2 months later even with a shitty broadcast on. (My wife is watching the Menedez murders atm on A&E) Yet I can see where the difference lies with OLED. Last night we were binge watching Stranger things 2 in the dark and when you pay close attention you can spot the slight difference between the tv turning off completely between dark scenes and zoned back light coming back on the next scene to reveal shadow detail while they were in the caves. In normal transitions it's not noticeable, just during the fake commercial break pauses.

So sure, for games where most of the screen is pure black with just one light source in your hand and basically a bad ambient light implementation. OLED will do a better job at displaying the image in a dark room. It's not natural, but does give it extra 'pop'