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NATO said:

he hears you, yet spends the entire thread telling everyone that veganism is how humans are supposed to live, and how it can cure just about any ailment, and how humans aren't supposed to eat meat, and even in his very reply to you, can't help but push the narrative that if only everyone were vegan the planet would magically be saved.

What about your post did he actually hear?

 

My honest to god view on this whole topic is more or less the same as my view on religion.

Do whatever the fuck you want, just don't spend your life trying to get/force/guilt other people to do the same.
You're vegan? good for you, unless i'm cooking you something i don't need to know.
You're religious, good for you unless i'm cooking you something i don't need to know.

Am i cooking you something?
Yes: Tell me "no __ for me please, i'm vegan", or "no __ for me please, it's against my religion"
No: shut your damn mouth.

You think you know me.  You like to think you can peg me in a little box based on your experiences with others, your own biases, and your preconceptions.  You couldn't be more wrong.

I'm a former omnivore.  When I was an omnivore, I didn't believe a lot of the things I believe now.  But as new information was presented to me, I kept an open mind and gradually made changes.  Those changes were made over a 27 year span.

In the early days of concern over tobacco smoking, a lot of people denied that smoking caused cancer.  People said just smoke if you want, or smoke in moderation if you're worried about it.  But that's not what the preponderance of science said.

Similarly, people are saying a lot of the same things about meat now.  But again, that's not what the preponderance of science is saying.

Again, you think you know me.  I don't own a single piece of clothing with the word "vegan" on it.  I don't go around telling people I'm vegan.  I have spent most of my life not being vegan.  I keep it to myself until invited to do so.  You do realize that this thread is on the topic of veganism, right?  Do you go to threads about the Nintendo Switch just to attack people for being excited about the Switch, or thinking the Switch is the best thing going?

You have pigeon-holed me as closed minded, yet it's my open-mindedness that made me vegan.  In truth, I'm not eating a vegan diet, I'm eating an evidence-based diet.  And as the best evidence changes, so too does my diet.  I make changes to it on a monthly basis.

But in your haste to declare me closed minded, you're actually declaring your own closed-mindedness since your assumptions about me and my experience are just that, assumptions.  And most of your assumptions about me are wrong.

Last edited by scrapking - on 01 December 2017