Mom wants 'sexist' fairy tale banned

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DarthMetalliCube said:

Goodnightmoon said:

This level of ignorance in 2017 is embarrassing, Nazis were never leftist, learn some history.

It's true, "socialist" is in the full name of "Nazi," though it's pretty much Socialist in name only, as the Nazi's were a far right Fascist regime.

But also important to point out - what's considered "left and right" in general is somewhat fluid and relative depending on the region and period of time. While it's true the Nazi's were indeed a representation of the extreme right in Europe several decades ago, they arguably (at least in my view) have more in common with the modern American extreme/Authoritarian left than the current American right wing or even Authoritarian right wing - between the far left's desire for a large, often imposing government; not to mention on a cultural level, their current obsession with censorship and a hierarchy of identity politics, even to the point of street-level thugs (Antifa) imposing their idea of law and acceptable speech through force, driven ultimately by large corporate interests/media. Sounds like some of the hallmarks of Fascism to me.. Not saying they're the current iteration of Nazi's or anything but they probably skew a bit closer to their ideology than many realize..

At the end of the day, yeah the Nazi's were a far right regime through the scope of 1930's European politics, but far right politics in Europe have very little to do with conservative politics in America for instance, or even current far right politics in America. History is never that black and white.

There is also the factor of "Horseshoe Theory" to consider, which is essentially that once you approach the extreme ends of EITHER side of the spectrum, the lines really start to blur and they actually resemble eachother a great deal. So you could say the Nazi's bear the hallmarks of both the far right and far left.

So while the statement "Nazi's were leftists" is an oversimplification that is mostly false, I do believe there is some validity to it. (I Have a degree in History btw :P)

The Nazis actually had a good amount of social programs. The point here isn't that Nazi didn't employ socialist policies, it's that just because Nazis did something social doesn't mean it's automatically bad.

Arguing that something is bad just because a bad person did it is something only an idiot would use in an argument.