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monocle_layton said:

1) people are ignorant. I point out that lack of stability is a clear issue and I'm suddenly an apologist for Islam. People believe Halal means sharia law has taken over (remember the outrage over halal butterball turkeys?), and that a chick wearing a hijab suddenly means she's being oppressed. People have to get off of fucking conservative nutjob websites/channels and actually learn something for once in their life. The amount of incorrect evidence surrounding the middle east is ridiculous

Yeah. Had similar assertions thrown my way, that I am an Islamic/Muslim apologist, despite the fact I am very strongly Pro-Atheist and would like all religion abolished. :P

monocle_layton said:

2) you just proved my point. My response was sarcastic and meant to say it won't stop ALL shootings. If Australia were to have a mass shooting this year (hopefully not), would that suddenly make it a failure? Of course not.

Missed the sarcasm, probably because I have seen people make similar claims as that and have been 100% serious. Haha

I think the big take away is... Gun Control doesn't mean you aren't allowed to own a gun.
We still actually own guns in Australia.

But you need a damn good reason to own one, you need a ton of background checks and balances and you need to meet a ton of security obligations...
In short... You will not see some drug-addicted redneck hippy, sitting in a rocking chair on a porch, waving a gun at kids telling them to get off their lawn.
We also don't have children getting a hold of a parents gun and having an accident shortly after.

And you are correct... If there was a mass shooting in Australia today, that doesn't negate the past few decades where there was no mass shooting... And we still might not have another mass shooting for another few decades after. It's still worked successfully either way.

monocle_layton said:

The ignorance surrounding guns and the 'muh guns are being taken!' claims are as dangerous as the anti-vaxxing claims.

Don't get me started.
Anti-Vaxxers, Flat-Earthers, Anti-Gun Control, Climate-change deniers... Are loopy, ignorant and/or dangerous as each other.
Thankfully Anti-Vaxxers are a minority... And thus will still be protected via the herd immunity concept.




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