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Well I've been hitting vr world's since my last post, and my gods does it show the tech off, there's a ways to go before I think the system will work properly for mega rpgs, but wow, I will definitely grab some of those other games, and thanks for the pointers.

This is a first use of the wii moment, getting new gaming styles always blows me away.

And it's the first time I've ever got my fiancee to play the ps4, and she loved it (worlds) which vastly improves my thoughts on the costs :)

I have a standard ps4, won't upgrade to the pro, as a rule I hate mid lifespan upgrades, and won't buy them out of principle.

If I miss games as a result so be it, they should be releasing the upgrades as new systems should they be required for future games, kinda 3ds/new 3ds situation.

And as a whole graphics don't bother me, entertainment does, and this is the first time the Playstation has matched a Nintendo console for some time!

Anyway I'll stop hijacking the thread with my newb VR experiences, thanks for the help everyone, really really appreciate it.