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Imaginedvl said:

DonFerrari said:

I just admitted that long term the shortage had little impact, but we are discussing 1st week in UK. You were given link showing that even months after launch it was supply constrained anyway. And I tried to buy a PS4Pro and a PSVR on Washington in April. I found only one refurbished PS4P and one PSVR available to sale and that was 6 months after release so there wasn't plenty available (and of course there wasn't a high demand, just more demand than supply).

Yes Switch is on a different league than PS4Pro, but suddenly is X1X in the same league? Because here we are comparing it.

You want to say X1X have more demand without anything to backup but others need to be biased not to see? Switch and PS4P were constrained on release so one can't really say if there were more demand or just that X1X had 18 months of marketing (against almost no marketing for PS4P) or just more sales on week 1. Long term I really don't think X1X will outsell PS4P, and there is that small issue of MS not releasing their numbers at all.

Marketing is part of the whole sale process... I mean if marketing is driving a higher demand, that's just what it is and at the end the demand is higher (or not) but as you pretend the shortage of the Play Station Four Pro is responsible for the not-so-high initial numbers you cannot dismiss the marketing as being one factor for the Xbox One X highest (or not, again, after one week, hard to say). At this point anyway it is really coming to the point where people who are more interested into the Play Station brand could not find any after few weeks anywhere where people like me could see some available at multiple locations... That or we have a very different definition of shortage.

Underline: From where did you even come up with this? I mean, do you even read anything or try to understand my posts or are you just sticking on some keywords? I'm talking about shortage from the start and comparing the Play Station Four Pro and Switch from the start... Not sure where you saw me comparing any Xbox One X shortage (which does not exist) with the Switch or even mentioning the Xbox One X to be in the same league than the Switch. 

For me, the Switch situation is what I call a shortage, when no one really can buy it even if they are willing to check other stores (online or street) than one or two in their vicinity. I do not know anyone who could not find a Play Station Four Pro in 1 or 2 weeks at any moment. 

Errrr man... where to being... Sure the objective of marketing is to raise demand, and when done for 18 months it should work. What does that have to do to anything besides that X1X being much more marketed should have raised X1X above PS4P? Still that doesn't necessarily warranty results. It is funny that you try to make your anedocte a fact against formal reports from Sony and magazines.

You do know that in USA, X1X was "almost out of stock" right? And for release that basically means it wasn't as good as it should since 1st week is supposed to be completely sold out.

This thread is about X1, so if any comparison isn't being made relevant to the thread then it's off-topic. So when you are talking about PS4P no being on league with Switch but missing to say X1X also isn't in league with them then one would infer that you are thinking X1X would be in league with one or the two.

So am I no one? Because I needed to buy used after looking all stores in the region of washington DC? Are the Magazines reporting shortages for over some months lying?

Imaginedvl said:
LivingMetal said:

I highly doubt this was the case.  No need to get your Xbox ego stroked over it. 

Well, you can add any emoji you want to make you sound neutral here; we both know where is your ego or bias is in general esp. when you post in Xbox related threads :)

And my "Xbox ego" has nothing to do with this, 66% of the Xbox One sold in the UK are Xbox One X... Numbers are just what matter or not?... Now, based your realistic bias, this big "shortage" of the Play Station Four Pro is the only reason 66% of the Play Station Four Pro sales first week in the UK were not Play Station Four Pro... I guess my "Xbox ego" is making that up...

I know this website has a majority of Play Station and Nintendo enthusiasts (so expecting to win any argument is close to 0, not sure why I'm even wasting time here :)) but the need to always try to downplay the Xboxes in the any Xbox threads is really become an obsession for some of you.

Here you go, so you can have a better day: the Play Station Four Pro and the Switch had the same issues (I means same level, really, fine), and the Play Station Four Pro would have sold WAY more without this legendary shortage you are talking about. And the Xbox One X debuts are not that good, really bad actually, I mean there is no shortage anywhere, shows how bad it is right? Esp. when you compare it to the almighty Play Station Four Pro who is comparable to the Switch in term of demand. There you go, feel free to quote me if you want to add up to your future non-related Xbox One X debut in the UK post in this thread in the future and downplay it even more.

Do you know that winning an argument is relevant to the quality of your argument instead of the number of people you are arguing against?

And no one in here said PS4P shortages are comparable to Switch, only one inferring that is you trying to mock others, what was said is that both where in shortage during first months so the first week sales could have been higher.

And please entretain us on how much more will X1X sell over PS4P LT.



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