| footbag said: The big bang is both testable and observable. The various by-products of the big bang began expanding outward from the emanating point at a massive but stable rate. Since their speed and direction is measurable using the Doppler effect, we originally hypothesized that the universe must be expanding. The Tolman test later confirmed their hytpothesys. This became a test and proof of the expansion theory. By identifying certain elements in other galaxies, we've noticed that the further away from the center these galaxy's get, the younger they appear. As for the "energy cannot be created or destroyed paradox" or Newton laws of thermodynamics it is suggested in the theory that the big bang created the laws of physics. In other words, the four forces of nature (Gravity, Strong Nuclear, Weak Nuclear, and electromagnetic) were created by the big bang and didn't exist until. We are talking about energies to the power of infinity, so it doesn't seem like a stretch to say that that amount of energy could reorganize the parts of an atom. Either way, This proof doesn't work... "If time is infinite and this ball of matter existed at a point in time, it can be assumed that the ball of matter was 'at rest' for an infinite period of time before it exploded." It really only says assume the object was "at rest" for an infinite amount of time. What was the outside force? Perhaps it was a previous universe contracting to the critical point where its own laws of nature became null causing the big bang. As for Faith... You cannot have faith in something that can be or has been proven. You can say you have faith in it, but it is not faith by definition. |
The big bang has not been proven and cannot be proven, it IS NOT testable, and IS NOT observable. To say the assumed effects of an event are observable is not to say the actual event is. If you see a huge tidal wave coming toward shore and assume it was caused by an asteroid, you are assuming cause to explain effect. The existance of an expanding universe does not and cannot disprove the existence of God. Who's to say that the 'effects' you're citing to prove the big bang aren't effects of something completely different (such as the moment of creation)?
You said that you can't have faith in something that can be or has been proven... the big bang cannot be and has not been proven. That's why it's still called a theory. This is why people say 'I believe in the big bang', it is still something that has to be believed in. I personally think there could have been a 'big bang' so to speak, I just think an outside force (God) was the cause of it.







