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EricHiggin said:

With the rumor of a next gen console using a separate CPU and GPU, and seeing the announcement of that today into the market by Intel, a separate CPU, AMD GPU, and HBM2, all on Intels version of Infinity Fabric basically, I could see PS5 using that type of layout with a 12nm or 7nm Ryzen and Vega + HBM2. That could launch mid to late 2019 in a PS5, which would make using an HDD or SSHD quite likely. The system could definitely house some on board flash memory as well to help, but I would think the main mass storage would be either an HDD or SSHD in that case.

I understand the reasons why extending PS4 makes sense in terms of market share and mind share, and it does make sense, but with Ryzen launching early 2017, and PS not using that tech at all until 2021 or later, seems like lost potential. Considering the first APU's launched in 2011, PS and XB must have been working on them with AMD by then for their 2013 launches. I also can't believe that AMD isn't doing everything they possibly can to get Ryzen into the next gen consoles asap. It would help AMD in many ways as well.

PS4 has a few more years in it regardless, but given the chance to extend that or jump into some newer tech, based on the PS2 to PS3 transition, I think that PS is not going to want to hang on to PS4 for dear life like they did with PS2, holding PS3 and potentially PS5 back. PS3 had a world of other problems on top of that, but PS2 having the backing it did, for as long as it did, hurt PS3 no doubt. PS3 was also sold at a major loss and needed to be paid off, while PS4 is sold at cost if not for a small profit. Keeping PS4 alive as long as possible, would be quite greedy. PS learned many PS3 lessons, but did they learn these as well?

The concept of a system with a dedicated CPU and GPU sounds great, albeit expensive. I am also not sure they can get that kinda setup to work with HBM. An APU yes, but not discrete CPU and GPU. I could be mistaken though.

And I wouldn't say that the more this gen drags on the more likely it is that we would use "future" tech on the storage front. Technically we are only going to use stuff thats on the market right now. The question is how much said stuff is gonna cost.

Even if sony doesn't use Ryzen, doesn't mean there wouldn't be something available for them to use in 2019/2020 that is better than ryzen in every conceiveable way. And I think AMD is really happy with how things are right now. Their hardware is powering 4 very successful consoles right now (PS4/PS4pro/XB1/XB1X) thyey are probably taking orders of over 30M chips each year right now so things are probably really good for them on that front for the time being.

And this isn't about being greedy. Don't forget that its a business. And the real money comes from selling software. Having a platform that is doing so well commercially just means they are under no real pressure to push out a replacement. Now more than ever they are in the best position possible to wait it out until the right combnation of tech not only becomes available but gets to the right price.