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OTBWY on 03 November 2017
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Nymeria said:
OTBWY said:

You need a real progressive, with a real progressive message, to run and campaign on progressive points. The democrats need to reform and kick the corporate democrats out. Fake democrats like Diane Feinstein need to leave. The democrats need to focus on jobs and the economy. Clinton losing Michigan and surrounding states including the rust belt to Bernie in the primaries should have been a canary in the coalmine. "It's the economy, stupid".

We are in complete agreement.

The issue is those in power don't want that and have shown they will resist change even to their detriment.  Is it more viable to try and fight for reform within for years or build a third party? In both cases I'm sure we'd be blamed if Feinstein (or similar) ran against Trump in 2020 and lost.  

Building a third party would last more years than reform. More than 8 years at least. You would need to build a base through multiple campaign and elections. Very hard imo.