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OTBWY said:
Nymeria said:

So, how would you win in 2020?  

You need a real progressive, with a real progressive message, to run and campaign on progressive points. The democrats need to reform and kick the corporate democrats out. Fake democrats like Diane Feinstein need to leave. The democrats need to focus on jobs and the economy. Clinton losing Michigan and surrounding states including the rust belt to Bernie in the primaries should have been a canary in the coalmine. "It's the economy, stupid".

We are in complete agreement.

The issue is those in power don't want that and have shown they will resist change even to their detriment.  Is it more viable to try and fight for reform within for years or build a third party? In both cases I'm sure we'd be blamed if Feinstein (or similar) ran against Trump in 2020 and lost.