Is it time to worry about Austria again?

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Vinther1991 said:

RolStoppable said:

That doesn't line up with the facts though. The people who put this law in place in Austria didn't make it a law against burqas, but really everything that a face can be covered with. It's so ridiculous in its execution that the driver for the decision has to be xenophobic motivations. Here's a fun story:

https://www.thelocal.at/20171010/shark-mask-wearer-falls-foul-of-austrias-burqa-law

It's not a joke. This is real.

Here's an article about how big of an issue the burqa is in Austria:

https://qz.com/1090885/austria-just-slapped-a-burqa-ban-on-the-150-women-who-dare-to-wear-one/

One hundred and fifty.

I said a burqa ban was a good idea (and not racist, you still didn’t explain why it is) I didn’t endorse the way it was implemented in Austria. There is a, I might say, ‘dated’ and unnuanced human right that prohibit any sort of discrimination of a religion, which is why they made the law this way. They could probably still modify it so it works as intended.

The fact that a burqa ban would only target 150 or so is a bad argument not to make it. If only 150 were affected by pedophilia, should that then be legal? A small step in the right direction is still a step in the right direction. Besides, it also has a strong signal value, that we don’t accept religiosly justified female opression.

We don't accept religiously justified female oppression we accept legally justified female oppression. Who are you to decide what cloth is oppressive. I can damn well choose to wear a jacket in summer covered in scarfs it's none of your concern. Forcing people to wear or not to wear something is still oppression. It doesn't work the way you think. If the woman has a choice always had a choice no one forced her not her parents nor spouse not anyone and she still CHOOSES to wear a burqa then there is nothing oppressive about it. What's oppressive is if she wants to wear one but the law prohibits it. It's one of the most ridiculous pieces of legislation to come out of any country. You have no problems with atheists and christians raping people in Hollywood you are more concerned about what a woman CHOOSES to wear in Europe. Oh I am Jewish and I am so oppressed I have to wear a hat. Guess what not all Muslim women in Pakistan wear a burqa let alone anywhere on Europe. That alone should tell you something. People wear all sorts of things as long as the law allows it and full on nudity is something else but other than that if KSA lifts the ban today, you will see many women wear what they want. Hell some still do and sometimes they are caught and sometimes they are not. Integrating into society doesn't mean you throw your ideals and culture away. It means you embrace the good of both sides and things that don't clash with your ideals and culture. If they clash too much then you probably should just leave the place but last time I checked covering your head with a piece of clothing doesn't clash with any culture. No where does it say people should not wear hats for example. Nuns wear basically the same thing Muslim women do. That is another good question are nuns banned from wearing their clothes?