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Nem on 30 October 2017
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CrazyGamer2017 said:
Nem said:

No, the breaking of the country as you put it is irrelevant. This isn't about the rest of spain (yet) it's about catalunia. It's illegal because imperialists made it so. If every independence movement went through the proper channel, most would have not suceeded.

You are ridiculous in  your logic. Yeah, freedom of expression is equal to murder. Of course it is. /rolleyes

I understand history better than you do. What you are saying is what every country said to prevent their people from making their own decisions about their future. Simply put, you are in an empirialist mindset, because it's all you've ever known. And you dare to talk to me about history. Very funny.

Of course, i have no power, i'm not spanish. But when my people did, just like the dutch and the beligans, we showed you who gets to decide issues of freedom. I don't expect the core of an imperialist nation to know anything about it.

First it's not beligans (unless you mean some country I've never heard of) it's Belgians and I should know cause I am Belgian.

Second, by your standards pretty much every nation in the world is imperialistic because pretty much every nation has a history of invading other countries in one way or another, even the formation of countries stem from invading small kingdoms and uniting them under one nation. If you knew anything about history you'd know this, but you obviously don't, /roll eyes

And third, another thing you obviously don't understand is that pretty much EVERY country would not accept to be broken up just because a group of ignorant nationalists decide that their neck of the woods should be independent. Even YOUR country would not accept part of it just leaving. You don't believe me? Stand up and rise against the rest of your country, demand independence of your city or province and see if you're just going to get it. If you do then you can defend your point at least on principle if not on common sense but if you don't as I know is the case, "you just know nothing Jon Snow".

Thanks grammar police.

You are so simplistic is hurts. My standards say: People have a right to decide their future. That is what the old kingdoms didn't have. We are now in democracy, not in monarchy nor in the middle ages (except for some token that keep their kings and queens to look lame in the pink magazines).

Ignorant nationalists? Country be broken up? This is you still in the wrong mindset. You DON'T GET TO DECIDE FOR THEM! It is not one of your rights!

See, you talk about me, but you actually don't know much do you? There is an island that keeps toying with the idea of independance in Portugal. You know what we say? Go ahead! Good riddance!

Forcing people to do what you want is NEVER a good idea. It will NEVER work. And wether it's a majority or minority remains to be seen. As the central power refuses to give a voice to the people. And that's that.

Like, who the eff cares about your stupid country losing some areas when their people hate each other? What is the point of forcing others to live with you? It's like this never happened is Spain before. Guess what? It is gonna happen again and again and again. Because Spain is not a union. The more you force people to do what they don't want, the more they will resent you.