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Nem on 30 October 2017
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CrazyGamer2017 said:
Nem said:

Completely and utterly incorrect and why that constitution is imperialist. 

The rest of Spain has NO say in the matter. You don't get to force people to do as you want. They are free people, not your slaves.

And i would support each and every region that would wish to seceed if that is the will of their people. I defend freedom and democracy.

There is a point where that isn't beneficial, to adress your into the ridiculous example, but if it's what they wish, there are no gripes. Maybe you don't think about it, but the opposite is also possible. If A wants to join B for mutual benefit and both are ok with it, they should unite.

Problem is that that never happened in Spain. Was just full scale submission through kings and queens. Not the will of the people. It needs to start there.

Dude come back when you learn a little more about the situation and know what you're talking about.

The referendum was ILLEGAL and that is a fact. You can say it's not correct but it is a FACT. Learn that word. The rest of Spain HAS a say when something happens in THEIR country, that's democracy: A system where EVERYONE has a say, learn that word too. Unless you want a system where only an elite, or a group of interests is the only one with a say. Such systems exist but they are NOT democratic in essence.

As for your argument of submission through kings and queens, here is something you definitely need to learn: Pretty much EVERY country out there has a bloody history of submission and invasions and all that stuff IN THE PAST. If you want to call into question countries today because of how they were made a long time ago, there's pretty much NO country out there that should exist then. Your solution is to go back to a million small and independent kingdoms and that makes NO SENSE in this modern world. The result will be wars all the time and everywhere because that's exactly how it was 500 years ago, 1000 years ago etc.

Someone once said: "He who does not learn history is doomed to repeat it."  and truer words were never spoken.

Then let them have a referendum. You can't put the blame of them on them. They weren't allowed to have one. How do you have a referendum when it's illegal to make one? Nice logic bud. Great democracy there.

I know far more about history than you ever will. And no they wouldn't. You can't get past your ridicule exemple because you don't respect what is the will of the people and think everyone wants to be separated from everyone else. You don't get to decide what is best for other people. There are cultural and linguist reasons.

You don't know better. You are just a trying to bully the states on spain that want to be free. Like it ALWAYS was. We expect that from castellians. It's what they ALWAYS did.