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Tryklon said:
vivster said:

Yes and for those people honor and pride is not only above money but also above other people's lives. Where is the honor in destroying whole countries? Honor and heritage is fucking bullshit. It leads to fucking nationalism and that has never helped anyone.

They might as well go to war then if honor is that important to them. They have the right to throw away their own lives and not everyone elses.

Honor and pride is the worst thing to base decisions on because it's the most removed from rational thought.

There is where democracy enters. Let them vote for their independence. People should have the right to choose, but they simply won't allow it... guess why!

It's a nation of cowards if you ask me, from the times when they butchered entire nations of natives in South America to steal their gold, to this day...

I'm sorry, but I simply HATE this kind of anti democratic behaviour. Once again I extend my congratulations to the UK, who let their people vote in Scotland, where the union won, and the Brexit, where the Exit option won. 

THE PEOPLE SHOULD ALWAYS BE ABLE TO CHOOSE THEIR DESTINY!

Their also the reason america is as it is today,..... because christopher columbus sailed for the spanish.

They brought back the tomato & potato, and ended hunger & starvation issues europe had.

Common that picture you paint isnt the entire story.