Catalonia declares independence. Puigdemont free to roam Belgium.

[vivster]

Tryklon said:

vivster said:

Guess how they sustain themselves? By trading within their own fucking country. Being part of the EU also boosts tourism to Barcelona. Ceceding and being promply out of the EU will hurt them. No, they cannot sustain themselves without the help of other countries.

The one too decide what country is too small to exist is common sense and financial responsibility. Nobody will be better off if they split. They will have their temporary victory lap and then what? The people who live there and don't agree are fucked, the people who depended on that land are fucked. According to you the whole pof Spain is fucked. A land that already has very fragile financial stability.

Look at what happened with Brexit or Crimea. Everyone is fucked now because some special snowflakes dreamed of their own country one day.

I'm sorry, but that is just paternalistic mumbo jumbo.

You need to stop and think that for some people, honor and pride is above money... I know thats hard to understand this days where we are all numbers... maybe one of this days we start to see guillotines on the streets again!

Yes and for those people honor and pride is not only above money but also above other people's lives. Where is the honor in destroying whole countries? Honor and heritage is fucking bullshit. It leads to fucking nationalism and that has never helped anyone.

They might as well go to war then if honor is that important to them. They have the right to throw away their own lives and not everyone elses.

Honor and pride is the worst thing to base decisions on because it's the most removed from rational thought.