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Tryklon said:
vivster said:

They are part of the EU right now. What is their fucking problem?

The problem is that they are a very old nation, annexed to Spain, who had to endure some of the most shameful treatment ever given to a people, namely a prohibition of even speaking their language. They are tired of Madrid's bulls**t and lack of respect, and are tired of being bossed around by a government they don't see as their own, and a king which they heartily despise.

 

I can't honestly understand what is the problem about a people choosing to self determine their future...

Small micro countries are a problem. They want all the independence but cannot sustain themselves alone, so the first thing they're gonna do after independence is running around and asking bigger countries for aid. That's why bigger countries exist. Seperate country means separate government, rules, issues etc. That means more resources are eaten away for silly burocracy and issues that could be more effectively tackled in a bigger national context.

You cannot have your cake and eat it too just because you don't like your government. The world is better off with as few countries as possible.

There are of course some exceptions where people are actually oppressed and abused by a fascist government. Catalonia is not such a case.

Those people are not deciding "their own future". They're deciding the future of a whole strip of land that not only affects all people living there but everyone else who is dependent on that land as well. If they were deciding their own future they would just move away.

Last edited by vivster - on 28 October 2017

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