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sundin13 said:

Addiction is largely mental. Once you get past the physical symptoms (which is typically the period of time which treatment focuses on), it is the mental issues (often similar issues that lead one to suicide) which cause a relapse. Just as intervening and getting someone help is important to treatment of drug addiction, intervening and getting someone help is important for depression and those at risk of suicide. 

But theres not really any overall point I was making there. Just saying they are both public health issues.

What I do want to know is what you mean by that last bit. How are we to expect improvement if we don't change? If our current systems clearly aren't working, is it reasonable to expect that the drug epidemic will vanish because of a law that's been on the books for years? Do you think that imprisonment is in any way more beneficial to these individuals than actual treatment?

EDIT: The more I read about the treatment methods we use in the USA, the more I'm not surprised how high the relapse rates are. To seriously tackle opioid addiction, we need to rework how we deal with it not just from a prison/rehab level but within how rehab is handled itself. 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-drug-rehab-is-outdated-expensive-and-deadly

What I meant by my last line was that the most effective and cheapest healthcare is not using any health services such as prevention measures ... 

Letting opioid consumption go unchecked will only further exasperate the issue much like our unparalleled obseity issues so going softer shouldn't even be an option, heck we shouldn't even have a system for this at all when opioid addiction is a largely preventable condition ...

There's precendent to show this when China during the Qing Dynasty lost the opium wars to Britain and opioid addiction ravaged these locales like there was no tomorrow. It wasn't until China experienced the second revolution when it became known as a people's republic that they started a massive crackdown on drug trafficking and the results speak for themselves since one of the top US officials praised their drug control procedures as effective in a country that's 3x bigger with it's citizens being comparatively 5x poorer but the biggest kicker of them all they solved this issue DECADES AGO in a nation that was troubled from opioids for generations! All drug dealer's get an instant death penalty so drug control obviously DOES WORK ... 

If those same people are going to advocate for gun control then those very same people should advocate strict drug control when the likes of China is a shining illustration of this by having the easiest of all the solution through banning illegal trade of opioids and handing out death penalties to those dealers. Another role model nation for this is Singapore where drug dealers get hanged

Just as you see a softer path there is also a hardline path that's PROVEN TO WORK and the US should start thinking about handing out out death penalties to drug dealers ...