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Final-Fan said:
Superman4 said:

The only way to be fair in collecting taxes is to implement a flat tax. Taxing based on income is discriminatory. A flat 11-13, even 20% tax for everyone with no tax deductions would allow us to provide full medical coverage and probably college education for everyone on top of fund the government. The rich would pay more since 20% of a million is more than 20% of 60K. The low and middle class would still benefit from no healthcare costs or tuition.  I will never be for taxing money already taxed just because you die and honestly cant think of how anyone else would be either. It is a way for the goverment to take wealth away from successfull people and hurt the future generations of that family. Its essentially a spite tax.

It depends on what you mean by fair, but sure, for a certain type of "fair" a flat tax is the best way.  I'm against it because it does more harm to people than a progressive tax, that falls less heavily on people who must necessarily spend a bigger proportion of their income on basic survival.  (Food etc.)  In general, my ideal is in trying to spread the pain fairly rather than trying for mathematical equality.  But I can appreciate that people have different viewpoints on this question. 

Anyway, are you also against sales taxes on the grounds that they also take money from you that you are already paying income taxes on?  Property taxes too?  We should go down to exactly one type of tax to make sure we don't overlap the payments—that is your position? 

P.S.  I'm skeptical of 20% being as revenue positive as you suggest, let alone 11-13% being revenue neutral.  But that's really off topic so I would prefer not to get into that before our current discussion is exhausted.  However, I will add that I'm completely in favor of simplifying the tax code.  But simplification is to be found in eliminatng deductions, credits, etc. rather than the basic structure, whether it's flat or progressive. 

I do not believe we should have to pay property tax, if we own the land outright why do I still need to pay the goverment? Sales tax is fine but I dont believe in extra sales tax based on type of goods. Take Tobacco and gas for instance. A simple sales tax on all goods would be better IMO.