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o_O.Q on 23 October 2017
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monocle_layton said:
o_O.Q said:

 

"Feminism itself simply means equal rights for men and women. "

 

yes which is why i asked you to list rights that men have that women do not have

 

"Do you think women shouldn't be treated like garbage? "

 

who outside of a very very small amount of people seriously believe women should be treated like garbage?

i mean just stating something like that show you are not thinking rationally

 

"I think women always deserve to be given the same chances as me"

 

what chances are you reffering to?

 

"The original belief of feminism will always be the idea that both sexes should experience equality"

 

well i'll repeat that the idea that men and women can experience equality of outcomes in a free society is one of the most retarded ideas i've ever been exposed to

Equity, not equality. A women who's pregnant shouldn't be expected to work 70 hours just because I could. At the same time, a man taking care of 2 kids shouldn't be expected to work 65 hours because a single woman can.

 

You constantly keep going in a circle and saying 'well what inequalities'. That was never my fucking argument. You clearly stated you personally don't treat women like garbage and think they're clearly treated well. How does that negate feminism?

 

A movement is not supposed to constantly be changing for better or worse. If things seem fine, then there's nothing wrong with standing still for a short or permanent amount of time. How complicated is that? 

 

I'm thinking rationally, and instead of constantly going on about how I'm 'irrational', maybe you should stop repeating the same argument.

 

"Equity, not equality."

 

i quoted your words directly and you typed equality with regards to rights twice and could not state any rights that men have that women lack

 

" A women who's pregnant shouldn't be expected to work 70 hours just because I could. At the same time, a man taking care of 2 kids shouldn't be expected to work 65 hours because a single woman can."

 

what a weird red herring but is your argument here? that companies should be forced to absorb the costs of the personal decisions their employees make?


"You constantly keep going in a circle and saying 'well what inequalities'. That was never my fucking argument."

 

so why did you state that its about equality with regards to rights twice?

 

"You clearly stated you personally don't treat women like garbage and think they're clearly treated well. How does that negate feminism?"

 

i actually did not, what i said is that its a weird argument to bring up because i don't think anyone being rational would try to state that a significant number of people think its ok to treat women like garbage

 

i didn't say that this negates feminism

 

"If things seem fine, then there's nothing wrong with standing still for a short or permanent amount of time. How complicated is that? "

 

what is your point here? are you trying to in some roundabout way admit that men and women have equal rights now?

 

"I'm thinking rationally, and instead of constantly going on about how I'm 'irrational'"

 

well all i can do is request that you look back at my questions and your replies to them and assess your responces for yourself